Working Together-Infrastructure Design and BIM 360

PETER FUNK: So welcome to Las Vegas AU 2017. My name is Peter Funk. I'm a senior product manager at Autodesk. I work with Civil 3D, InfraWorks, and now Civil 3D and InfraWorks working with BIM 360. So my focus for the last year has been on project collaboration, project delivery for the infrastructure space.

If you are looking for the handout, it will be up there after the class. I'm a slacker. So Civil 3D, Working Together-- Infrastructure Design and BIM 360. What we're going to do this class is we're going to talk about-- we're going to do it in two parts.

The first part is what you can do today with BIM 360 and Civil 3D. And we're going to talk about that for a little while. And then we're going to transition to talk about-- and this is where I have to be careful-- what maybe we're working on for some release for some time frame unspecified in the future. I try to be as nebulous-- if you ask me when, I will not give you a straight answer.

And we'll talk about what we are considering doing, and then we will go into some additional product demos, provided the internet hangs together and everything works. Otherwise, we'll go to PowerPoint to show you what we may be working on as well. That make sense? Anybody have any objections seeing stuff that may not be shipping ever? Just don't make any purchasing decisions based on what you may or may not be seeing here today.

So how many people use Civil? Excellent. InfraWorks? BIM 360? Excellent. Got the right crowd, I think.

So some of the things that we're going to talk about for BIM 360-- project management, document management, review and markup, sharing designs, and taking it to the field. So again, this is all BIM 360 today. And actually, I'll do some demos of this all live as well.

So for project management, we've got tools in BIM 360 to create a project, to assign administrators to the project, add contributors to the project. And the contributors to the project can both be inside your company as well as outside of the company. So BIM 360 allows you to work both with people just inside your company. But if you're working, say, with a survey firm or an architectural firm, you could be sharing the data with BIM 360 outside of your company.

You're also able to assign roles and permissions to the people. So whether they're a designer, or a reviewer, or manager, you can assign different roles with different levels of permission. So some people will have no permission to see anything. Charles, there's more down here, if you want.

You've got view permissions. You've got edit permissions. Some of the delete permissions are even a little bit higher than that. And then you set up the project structure. So this is basically your directory structure inside of BIM 360 for where you want to store the files.

So the document management, this is really the heart of the document management system for BIM 360. You can add most file types to BIM 360. So DWG files, definitely-- Word documents, Excel documents, PDF files, TXT files, some versions of DGN files. We may be fixing that at some point in the future. All these can be added into BIM 360.

And we'll show it inside of BIM 360. There's two sections inside of BIM 360, inside each project. One's for plans, and one's for project files. For Civil 3D, we'll typically be working in the Project Files directory. But if you put a drawing file into the Plans section, and that file has layouts, the layouts are broken out for you and placed in the Plans section individually so you can see every layout in the project right in BIM 360. And you can also print right from there.

Every time you load a file to BIM 360, it gets tagged with the version number. When you make a mistake-- I was working on a presentation just last week, completely hosed a file on myself. And it's like, oh, crap. I've got to start-- and it's like, wait a second. I put it in BIM 360. I went up to BIM 360. I rolled it back three versions, grabbed the file, and away I went. So that versioning system's up there, available.

When you take a file and you promote it to the topmost version, you don't lose any of the versions in between. So I was at 10. I took six, and six became 11, and away I went. So you're not overwriting anybody's version of the file. It's just supplementing it to be the most current version.

And we're also tracking who did that. So if I see that John keeps updating or rolling back a file, I can go have a conversation with John to find out why he keeps rolling back my files-- not that you'd ever do that. Again, files can be plotted from BIM 360.

And XRefs and associated files are also uploaded. So if I have a file that has three XRefs attached to it, and I take that file and I put it into BIM 360, BIM 360 looks at that file and says, oh, you've got six XRefs attached to that. Let me go get those and bring those up into BIM 360 for you.

So you don't have to remember to bring all those files. It brings them with you. And when you look at the file, it's going to show you the file as well as all of its XRefs when you use the viewer.

Review and markup. So again, we'll get into this. It's much better live. So models can be reviewed by anybody with permission to view the models. So one of the really interesting parts of BIM 360 for me is that for every designer that's working with Civil 3D or InfraWorks, there's probably two, three, four people that are reviewing those plans, but not in the design applications. Three, four-- what's the number for most people? Two? Seven? The more, the merrier for us.

But what we're looking at is, again, there's a couple of ways that people review them right now. One way is, hey, John, would you plot out those drawings so that I can review them? Another way would be, hey, Dave, open up that file. Show it to me. No, no, go left. Go left. Go left. Up. All right, now measure that. Now, what was that again?

So you waste two people's time doing that. It becomes a voice-activated CAD system. It's fairly fun for the person that's not running it, but it's not very effective.

You get 2D and 3D versions of all your models. Again, if you have Civil 3D, it's got 3D versions. You can go and look at the 3D versions of the models, as well as the 2D plan sheets. You can measure those in feet, inches, decimal feet, whatever units you want.

And then you can also review and comment and mark those up. The comments live with the file and not with the version. So we'll show that if I make a markup and say, hey, fix this, that markup stays in either the 2D view or the 3D view until somebody clears that markup.

So I might put six versions of the file up on the server without actually fixing the problem. Somebody can go in and review the issues. And they say, yeah, he never fixed that, and go have a chat with the person and say, hey, you need to fix that now.

Once the issue is fixed, we can just clear the issue, and it gets archived. It doesn't get deleted. It just gets archived so that you can go back and look at all of the issues for that model that were put in there.

The review and markup-- oh, it just changed it. Part of the review and markup process as well is we're able to not only look at the graphics, but we're able to look at the non-graphic information inside of BIM 360 as well. So here is, on the top in the blue, I've selected a surface.

And it's going to show me all the surface properties that you would see inside of Civil 3D if you select a surface and said Properties. So you're going to see its 2D area, its 3D area, its number of triangles, number of points, min, max, slope, all that good stuff. If you pick on an alignment, it's going to show you all the alignment information for each one of the individual elements.

Down here is a little application that our developer consulting group wrote for us that uses the large model viewer or the BIM 360 Forge Viewer. And it's able to open up a model that's in BIM 360, and query the data for the alignments in the model using just the data that's in BIM 360.

So it's not opening up the drawing. It's not opening up anything except for the information found in BIM 360. And it's able to query it and create a report on the curves in the alignment-- completely nonsensical report basically saying, is this curve bigger than 200 or less than 200. And it says yes or no for the curves.

This opens up a lot of potential reporting applications that could be written inside of BIM 360, perhaps as a web service and instead of inside of Civil 3D. So the people that are doing reports probably don't use Civil 3D. They could be creating reports inside of BIM 360.

This is showing some measure capabilities, and this is showing measure inside of an InfraWorks model. That kind of slipped into the-- that's in the second half of the class, but we'll show it in the first half as well. And then this is showing the issue tracking.

So sharing of the designs. So within BIM 360, you can pick on a file, right-click on it, and say Share. And it's going to give you a web link that you can put into an email and send to somebody.

What that gives them is access to the viewer of the file and not the file itself. So they could review, mark up, comment, measure on the file without having Civil 3D on their machine and without pulling down your data to use. So if you want to protect your data and not let them have the data but you want them to see the information, you can use this viewing link to give them access to it.

And then mobile. And I'll show that in a bit. So we have the web interface for BIM 360. We also have an Android and an iOS version of BIM 360. So I've got the iOS on my tablet. I've got the Android version here.

All the data that we're seeing in the web viewer, we can see on the mobile devices. We can also do markups, reviews, measurements using the web and mobile tools as well. So somebody could be marking up in the field with their phone just like you could be marking up in the office. Questions so far? Yeah?

AUDIENCE: Licensing.

PETER FUNK: Yes?

AUDIENCE: If I get a license of this and I'm setting this all up, do my client, his vendors, and contractors also get licenses?

PETER FUNK: Check with your sales guy.

AUDIENCE: OK. [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: I don't know that answer, and I'm not going to make one up. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: You said [INAUDIBLE] in BIM 360 with all your XRefs and everything [INAUDIBLE].

PETER FUNK: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: If those references are being worked on by somebody else in the background and you want to work on that again, what's the status of the references when you edit? Do you copy those back the way they were, or do they update [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: That's the second half of the class. In the second half of the class, there'll be magically updated. It'll be beautiful. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: Are we talking about the [INAUDIBLE] and Docs put together, or what are we talking about?

PETER FUNK: I am talking about what they are referring to as BIM 360 Document Management, next generation. So it's the thing that is in public preview right now. What you may see later is me using BIM 360 Team, just because the next gen isn't quite ready. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: The answer to your question, yes, you do need license for anyone who [INAUDIBLE].

PETER FUNK: OK.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: Do unloaded XReferences get uploaded automatically?

PETER FUNK: I have no idea. All right, so before we go to the future, let's go here. And yes, this is Team, not Docs. But that's because this is where most of my data is today.

AUDIENCE: We're not seeing BIM.

PETER FUNK: It's right there.

[LAUGHTER]

Hang on. This could be interesting. All right, duplicate. Yeah, everyone just come-- let me just try to match resolution. Actually, we'll just do it this way. This won't be awkward at all.

So here are my projects that I've set up in BIM 360. So this is [? demo ?] project 26, just because. Within it, I see a file structure-- very reminiscent of the file structure that comes out of the box when you're using data shortcuts with Civil 3D. Surprise, surprise.

Within it-- so we have got documents, external references, production drawings, import source shortcuts, and the shortcuts XML. I'm going to go into source drawings. I'm going to go into surfaces. And I'm going to open up this existing [? ground.dwg. ?]

So there is my Civil 3D surface in 3D that I can zoom in and out and spin around pretty quickly. So spin in. The mouse is set up backwards. If I pick the surface, I can click down here and say Properties. And if you can read that, it's going to show me all the surface properties that are in that surface.

I can close that out, hit Escape. I can do markups here. So I can do a markup, draw a box-- beautiful box-- put in text.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: No, basically, it's drawing it in the 3D. And the nice thing is that it becomes an issue. And when I click on the issue, it's actually going to go back to that same 3D view and have the box in that 3D view.

So you can mark up 2D and 3D, and then you can put in, this is a problem. Again, not difficult at all. So save it, and it saves it. And there's the markup that I've got there. Again, do first-person, pan, zoom, et cetera.

So let's go into a different drawing here. Go into my source drawings. Here's my alignments. And this drawing actually had a surface in it as well. So the surface was a data shortcut. That surface isn't actually-- again, it's a data shortcut, but it's just displaying it because it's in the file.

And this is the 3D view of it. But in the 3D view, I can also see the road object here, or the alignment object here. And I can also set it to the 2D view, and it goes to the 2D view of the model.

AUDIENCE: Can you turn the objects off in here?

PETER FUNK: Yep. So I can pick on an object, and I can hide the selected. You can also turn on and off layers. You can also turn on and off classifications of objects. So you could say, turn off all my surfaces, or turn off all my pipes, or isolate all of my pipes in it.

So it also has-- one of these buttons is the tree view. Basically, you can see a tree view of the model structure inside of it.

AUDIENCE: Regions in the corridor?

PETER FUNK: What?

AUDIENCE: Regions in the corridor?

PETER FUNK: No, not regions in the corridor. Not right now. And again, you can see the 2D, as well as the 3D. Now, a year ago, if we were showing this, the 2D would not look good. And Jerry and Jeff would beat me up almost on a daily basis about the view of the 2D view. And the BIM 360 team has done a lot of work to make the views much, much, much better.

AUDIENCE: Can you do [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: Yep.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So hold that thought, and we'll be showing some stuff in the second half with very, very, very large models. So again, this is the large model viewer, and it's designed for large models. OK, other questions? Yes?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So 360 Glue is a module that will sit on top of BIM 360 Document Management for aggregating models together from different sources. This isn't that. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: Can you do inquiries?

PETER FUNK: Inquiries, like what?

AUDIENCE: Like elevation, [INAUDIBLE] and things like that.

PETER FUNK: Not yet. That is on our list of things to do after the things that we're doing.

[LAUGHTER]

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: How's that for a nebulous answer?

[LAUGHTER]

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: I actually used that in a meeting right before this, and it went over just as well. OK, how are we doing on time? Good. That was 20 minutes into it. Do you want to see project management as far as setting up a project? Actually, we kind of need to do that for the next section.

So again, I'm going to set this up in-- oh, this is going to be-- wait. Oh, it's [INAUDIBLE] now. All right.

So we're going to be doing this again in Team. The interface is-- it's going to be different, but it's going to be the same, if that makes sense. So I'm going to come back to Home.

And I'm going to create a new project. And I'm going to call this one something really creative, like AU 2017. Then I have to pick a picture for it, for whatever reason.

So it's created the project. I don't have any data in it. I can also go in here, and I can start adding people to the project. Dave is--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: No.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Well, I know. All right, so invite-- oh, perfect-- Dave Simeone. And I'm going to let you be an-- and you'll get an email in a couple of minutes that will invite you to the project.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Nope, sorry. That was too much [INAUDIBLE]. So let me go back to the slideshow, and we'll talk about what we're going to talk about. So again, this is the future. We're not going to say when. It's not today.

So right now, let me build this out. So right now, let's just make sure this makes sense to everyone. We've got an InfraWorks designer, Civil 3D designer, Civil 3D designer. They're all kind of working this, whatever that color is. This is one office. And they're doing some exchange of the files in between. They're storing their files on their local server.

This person over here is in a satellite office, home office-- just a different office. They have another server for their files. Is this typical for most firms? Just wow, that is bright. Yeah? Now I got spots. Whew.

So there's been a lot of work. People have done some very creative things to make that orange arrow work-- [INAUDIBLE] replicators, vault replicators, all sorts of different replicator technologies to make that work. Or they're just sucking it up, and they're working over the LAN or the WAN, and their open times are pretty terrible. Typical, yeah?

And then the people at the top, the project engineers, the BIM managers, the field engineers, they're in a box by themselves. They have a fence around them. They're not seeing the data unless the people down below are plotting PDFs or plotting DWGs and giving it to them, emailing it to them. Yes?

AUDIENCE: Yes.

PETER FUNK: OK. So what we're looking at is a Civil project in the cloud. We're calling it a low-frequency, high-trust environment. So everybody in the project, I trust you, at least to the level of permissions that I've given you. But I'm not trying to hide any files from you. You're seeing the current versions of all my files. You may not be able to edit them, but you're seeing the current versions of all my files.

They're pushed up there when I push them up there or when the system pushes them up there. They're not always updating to the cloud. They're updating to the cloud when they need to update to the cloud.

So here, let me build this out. So this is what we are working on for some unspecified time frame in the future. So you've got your Civil data in BIM 360. So that file structure that I showed you before is in BIM 360. That's where all your document files live. All your DWG files, all your XML files live up there, as well as all your docs and Excel files, and PDFs, and reports, and everything else.

Then, each individual user has a local cache of those files on their local hard disk. That cache is kept in sync with BIM 360 with those gray arrows. Those gray arrows are a technology that we're calling the Autodesk Desktop Connector.

It's a new system that we've put into place that looks at the files in BIM 360, looks at the files on your local cache, and keeps them in sync. However, it shows you, on your file system, all your files. However, those files are actually not on your file system until you use them.

So if you're involved in 10 projects-- say you're doing a review of 10 projects. You're going to see all the files for all 10 of those projects on your hard disk, but they're not going to take up any space on your hard disk. If you open them, it will go up to the cloud and pull them down. And then you'll use those files. You will interact with the files on your local hard disk.

And we're looking at things like predictive caching so that if I know that Dave is a designer on my project, he's probably going to want all the XML files and the surface files. And I could actually pre-populate those files to his machine while he's having a cup of coffee. Or before he even knows that he needs those files, we can pull those down to him.

The other thing is that when we push the files back and forth, we're not pushing full files back and forth. We're just pushing bit diffs back and forth. So if you have a 50-meg drawing file, surface file, the first time, we're going to pull down the 50 megs to your local hard disk. From then on, we're just going to be pushing bit diffs back and forth to the cloud.

So if somebody changes the surface file, flips 14 triangles, we're just going to pull up the bit diff of the changes in those 14 triangles to your local machine. So it's going to be a very, very tiny file and not that full 50 megs. So we're not going to be burning all your bandwidth changing small, minute changes.

Further out, after we do what we are doing now, again, we're looking at a lower-frequency, lower-trust environment. So this is when the civil engineers are working with the architects. It's they don't trust the architects.

And you're not going to show them every iteration of the parking lot. You're going to show them the parking lot when you're good and ready to show them the parking lot, or 30, 60, 90, every two weeks. But they don't need to see every version of it. They don't want to see every version of it. They want to see the version that you're submitting to the larger team. So this is something that we'll be working on after we finish working on what we're working on.

So Civil 3D and BIM 360 working together, BIM 360 is used as the project location. The local disk is used to cache the data. The desktop connector is used to maintain that connection. When you're offline, the cache is used so that you can continue to work even if you're not connected all the time to BIM 360. When you reconnect, it's going to sync up to BIM 360. And we're doing some rework on the data shortcuts to make them work better with the connector.

Before I do that, let me also talk about what we're doing for-- oh, actually, I didn't have it in there. So for InfraWorks, what we're doing for InfraWorks is-- and I'll show you here in a second-- is the current system of users and groups in InfraWorks is being replaced with BIM 360 users and projects.

The current InfraWorks web and mobile applications are being replaced with the BIM 360 web and mobile applications. We find that they're much faster. They've got more features in them-- sectioning, measuring, marking up. They're faster, and they're more secure than our current set of offerings. So those are all being replaced, and we can show you what an InfraWorks model looks like in BIM 360. Make sense? OK.

AUDIENCE: When is that happening?

PETER FUNK: After-- not today.

[LAUGHTER]

I told you, I'm not going to tell you a date. And yeah, you're not going to get a date out of me, but it's not today.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: No, it's not.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Well, it is. Well, no, it's not necessarily the version that-- we're not going to say when. Uh-huh?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] guess the quarter.

PETER FUNK: Yeah?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: The delta change, if you happen to have a copy of the desktop connector because you're working with Delcam, then yes. But unless you've installed it because of some other reason, no. So open questions-- file locking, subscribing to directories, packaging. And obviously, the big question is when. All right, so--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: It's coming. All right, so let's do InfraWorks. Actually, let's do this first. And I put this cable here, and I put this cable there. And I go to this one here.

And let's switch projects. Or actually, I am in the sandbox release, which is good. Project Files. Who's got good test? Actually, I think-- no, Martin had terrible test. No, I don't like [INAUDIBLE] either. This one's fine.

So this is Manchester, New Hampshire. So this is Manchester, New Hampshire done with InfraWorks, displayed in the large model viewer as part of BIM 360. So the performance is pretty damn good.

AUDIENCE: Is it live on the internet?

PETER FUNK: Yes, live on the internet. So nothing up my sleeves. So I can measure. 76 meters tall, that building. I can also do sectioning here. Come on. Stop it. Do sectioning. But it's doing 2D horizontal/vertical distances.

I don't want to calibrate. But this is doing a walk, so it's basically dropping us down to the ground. Oh. And then I can move there. Actually, I don't want to do the calibration.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yeah, thank you. But again, we can show issues and the [? RFIs ?] inside of the web viewer for InfraWorks. So all we've done, in InfraWorks-- is anybody on rolling sandbox? If you're on rolling sandbox, there's a little switch that says, throw it in a BIM 360 mode. And basically, instead of saving to where we were saving, we save a version up into BIM 360 that you can view.

All right, so now, we're going to switch back to here. Don't get old, by the way. Vision part stinks. All right. So we're going to go into Civil 3D, if I can find it. There it is

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Oh, thank you. This is the first time I've done a class, so forgive me. That's sarcasm, by the way. Here we go. All right.

So right now, my data shortcuts file is set to my BIM 360-- actually, I'll show you here. If I go to my file system, I've got my BIM 360 folder. I've got my team space. And remember, we made the AU 2017 project. I can open it up, and there's no files in it. Surprising, because we didn't put in files.

So what we're going to do is we're going to do a new data shortcuts projects folder. And I'm going to call this AU 2017. And I'm going to use a project template and say OK.

Now, I'm going to come back over to here. I'm going to hit this to open it up. And it's got all of the files created. Then I'm going to come over to here. So this is BIM 360. Come on.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yes. So that's part of Civil 3D today. Actually, let's kill that. Let's open it up again. Open it up, AU 2017. And there are my folders that are created in BIM 360 just like they were created inside of my local file.

Now, at this point in time, I could draw an alignment. I could do it this way. I'm going to draw an alignment, and I'm going to do, let's say, 1,000 feet that way, and then that way, and that way-- or 100 instead of 1,000.

And then I'm going to save the drawing. So I'm going to go Save. It's going to ask where I want it to save it. I'm going to go to this PC. I'm going to go to my BIM drive. There is the hub that I'm working in. And I'm going to pick AU 2017. I'm going to go to source drawings, and alignments, and call this one Alignment.

Now when I come over to here-- source drawings, alignments. In a minute or two, it's going to populate up to there. Actually, I probably need to close the drawing because it's not pushing every save. It's just pushing-- because I still have the drawing open, so it figures I'm still working. So I'm not going to bother to push up to the cloud until he's done working with that drawing. That way, every incremental save doesn't get pushed up to the cloud.

And then I can say, Create Data Shortcuts, and make it for the alignment. So I've just made a data shortcut for that drawing. And now that's saved in the cloud.

So now, we could open it up on somebody else's machine. They would see the drawing. They would see the data shortcuts, and they could work just like I'm working here. And I'm working-- everything is being done locally. So that BIM 360 folder that you saw is just part of my local hard disk.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: It's going to almost work, but it's not going to work. Things are not going to refresh the way that you would expect them to. The project setup is not going to work the way that you expect it to. And even on this machine, this is not what we're going to ship because it's still flaky.

So it kind of works. You can play around with it. But the data shortcuts are definitely going to have issues. If you're just using drawings and XRefs, it should work OK. Yep?

AUDIENCE: Is that sync happening inside of Civil 3D, or is it happening in the operating system?

PETER FUNK: So the question was, is the sync happening inside of Civil 3D or the operating system? Kind of--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] situation where AutoCAD crashed?

PETER FUNK: [GASPS]

Actually, it's part of-- there's an application called Autodesk-- the desktop connector that sits and does the watching for it. And then we provide a helper application to that that helps it sync the Civil 3D files.

AUDIENCE: When you make the changes and then AutoCAD crashes, those changes that hadn't been replicated [INAUDIBLE].

PETER FUNK: Yeah. So yeah, anything that's on the hard disk will be replicated up. So again, if you're working on just, say, a Word doc, you could be working on a Word doc. You could save the Word doc onto the local cache, and that gets mirrored up to BIM 360 as well. Like I said at the start, it's almost any type of file.

And again, the doc-- if you were using Word, the docs would get versioned as well in BIM 360, and you can roll back the doc versions as well. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: We're going to dodge that question as well.

[LAUGHTER]

Yeah?

AUDIENCE: How does that work with the other directory structures [INAUDIBLE] architectural, structural, [INAUDIBLE] projects? Can you do that?

PETER FUNK: It replicates whatever it finds in that drive. So anything that you put into that cache is going to go up to BIM 360.

AUDIENCE: I mean if there was already a project set up by the architect [INAUDIBLE] is that same project [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: So right now when I made that new project, I duplicated the name. That's just because it's not ready to go yet. We're going to make it so that you just pick the project that was set up in BIM 360.

Somebody needs to set the project up in BIM 360. I happen to be an account administrator, so I can do that. But Dave is not, so he would actually have to ask me to set him up a project. So not everybody can just make projects in BIM 360.

AUDIENCE: The other question would be are we going to be able to make that [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: So Revit may or may not be working on using the same technology to do DWG linking from your local hard disk-- may or may not be doing that.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yeah?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Hm?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

AUDIENCE: Hopefully sooner than later.

PETER FUNK: Yeah. Yeah.

AUDIENCE: So it's not saving it to the cloud as you're syncing it. Is that right?

PETER FUNK: It's not necessarily saving it as you're syncing it.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yep.

AUDIENCE: Would you [INAUDIBLE] that you as a person sees more changes?

PETER FUNK: I'm not sure exactly the algorithm that they're using. They've got some machine learning for when they decide to do it. And some of it's based on the changes. Some of it's based on time. Some of it's based on if the drawing's open. I don't know the exact-- what does it take to kick it up there.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] are you guys looking for beta testers right now?

PETER FUNK: What? Oh, absolutely. So if you're looking to test, it won't be this week. But how many people are members of the beta forum for Civil? All right. I've got an address at the end. Sign up for the beta forum for Civil 3D or for InfraWorks, and we will hook you up with this when it's ready to be tested. Yeah? Wait--

AUDIENCE: Can the cache be moved to a network [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: No. So the question was-- and Charles-- where's Charles? He actually asked-- I've been asked the question three times so far in a day. So the question was, can the local cache be moved to a LAN? And the answer is no.

We're looking at doing predictive caching. One of the reasons is that it would be impossibly hard to set up. It wouldn't support the offline access that this supports. It would require overhead on your part.

And from my VP of cloud operations who set up cloud operations at Google, back in his first-- or one of his other jobs, local file stores are not as secure as BIM 360. So BIM 360, we're doing it on AWS. AWS has armed guards, diesel generators, three months of fuel, way more secure than your file servers are. I hate to break that to you.

We're all SOC 2-compliant, so we're at the highest levels of security that we can get. And we keep increasing it. Every quarter, they're doing changes to make it compliant. There was a question.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So the question was concurrent file changes. There is a locking mechanism in Docs so that you can lock people out of the files. Concurrent changes may be something after the something after the something.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So yes, you have to pay attention. The nice thing is that you do have the versioning, and you can see who checked it in. And you're not going to lose anything. I mean, right now, if Dave's got a file open, and I really, really want to edit it, I'm going to edit it.

I'm going to open it up, and it's going to say, this is read-only. Dave's got it. It's like, I don't care. I'm just going to save it to a new name. And now, we have two versions of that file. Which one's the current one? I mean, nobody's ever done that, right?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: No, no, I didn't think so. But that's something that I would do. So this system, we're at least not making a duplicate file. We just have two versions. And we can actually compare the two versions and see what my version looks like and what Dave's version looks like.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Not right now. They were thinking that they could do a magical tool that would merge the bit diffs together. And somebody informed them that they really should not be thinking about this while they're in Colorado.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yeah, so they're looking at warning systems for how to do that. I put on there that's an open question. I don't know how that's going to work. That's definitely something that they have to address. There was another-- yes?

AUDIENCE: Is it path-sensitive? So does it save the path [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: So the question was, is it path-sensitive? Because my BIM 360 drive is different than your BIM 360 drive. One of the things that we've done is that the team made it path-insensitive. So we actually made it so that data shortcuts are now relative-pathed and not hard-pathed. So that was one of the big changes that we're making or have made to the system. Yep?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: Yep. So again, something after the something after the something after. Don't count those in years.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So it was, Map can do entity-level locking. This is not doing entity-level locking. With data shortcuts, you, in effect, have an entity-level locking system. But that's just part of the data shortcut system.

How are we doing? Oh, we have five minutes. So--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: So this is one of those cases that I can say no. We have no plans right now to extend it to the Map workflows. Now, if you use Map-- let's say you had a shape file, and you had a shape file on your machine. You could put that shape file onto your Autodesk drive. That shape file would be mirrored to the BIM 360 drive, which would be mirrored down to my machine.

So will Map be enhanced by this? Yes. But my team's not involved with the Map, so I'm not going to speak for them. Make sense? Yep. Other ones? So let me put a couple of slides up.

DAVE SIMEONE: Hey, Peter, [INAUDIBLE].

PETER FUNK: Oh, you did. Oh. I got to find it. Here we go. In where?

DAVE SIMEONE: It should be in your alignments.

PETER FUNK: In my alignments? All right, let me just open it. There we go. So there's that alignment drawing that I put up there 12 minutes ago, and Dave just put an XRef alignment with labels up there.

DAVE SIMEONE: [INAUDIBLE] alignment, and then [INAUDIBLE] alignment [INAUDIBLE].

PETER FUNK: So you didn't see us running files back and forth, so this was all done wirelessly using this technology. Thank you, Dave.

DAVE SIMEONE: That was the extent of our rehearsal.

PETER FUNK: Yes, right there was the extent of our rehearsal.

AUDIENCE: Are they going to get rid of [INAUDIBLE] and put it all under Docs?

PETER FUNK: Yeah. So the question is, are they going to get rid of Team? Yes, Team will be going away at some point in the future. Everything is merging to the next generation of document management.

AUDIENCE: Docs. Is it Docs or something else?

PETER FUNK: Today, we're referring to it as Document Management. But even Joan Allen, the PM for Document Management, just referred to it an hour ago as Docs. So its real name is Document Management, but if you call it Docs, we'll still sell it to you.

[LAUGHTER]

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] with InfraWorks 360, then?

PETER FUNK: What?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] InfraWorks 360?

PETER FUNK: InfraWorks 360 has been renamed InfraWorks. But again, we'll sell it to you if call it InfraWorks 360. And it's going to be working with BIM 360 for the storage.

So when I pulled up that file, it had an IWM extension. So that's the InfraWorks model file extension inside of BIM 360. So you can see all your InfraWorks models inside of BIM 360 now. Yep?

AUDIENCE: Will there be lesser versions of Docs so that regular office staff can access project-related documents without having the full [? smash? ?]

PETER FUNK: The full [? smash ?] is-- it's document management. It's going to come in at some price. I'm not going to talk to you-- I don't know the price. There's going to be a pack.

I've seen bundles, large numbers of bundles which drive the costs down. So that's where-- Docs is the base level. And we did a lot of work to make it so that Civil 3D went out at that base level. Yep?

AUDIENCE: Is it similar to C4R? Are those separate [INAUDIBLE]?

PETER FUNK: This is not C4R. We're not targeting a C4R-type system. We're looking at something beyond C4R. So that's that thing that was after the thing that's after the thing, would be something that's beyond where C4R is. We're really excited about what it is, but we can't talk to you about it.

AUDIENCE: Are you going to let [INAUDIBLE] Navisworks-type tool, where you get [INAUDIBLE] emails and other things?

PETER FUNK: So is it going to be like Navisworks? It's the base level for project delivery. So this is focused at project delivery from design through construction.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

PETER FUNK: There's a lot of different modules for the construction side that would have some of that tracking issues and might have the email. Anything else? I'm going to be here for the rest of the day-- well, not here. But I'll be in the Answer Bar for the rest of the day, and I'll be in the Answer Bar all day tomorrow. So stop by and see us. And if you have any questions, I'll hang out until they kick us out.

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