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Collaboration for Revit: Opening the Doors for Real Collaborative Project Execution

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Collaboration for Revit cloud service has fundamentally changed the way the architecture, engineering, and construction industry works on complex projects that require collaborative workflows. This class will focus on explaining the concept of Collaboration for Revit. We'll demonstrate the fundamentals of using collaborative workflows using Collaboration for Revit, and illustrate how multiple stakeholders can work on the same model in the cloud. My co-speaker-the national Building Information Modeling (BIM) manager of a large architectural firm-will explain how their company used Collaboration for Revit to deliver complex projects on time and on budget using real collaboration on the firm's Revit models.

주요 학습

  • Learn how to upload Revit models on the Collaboration for Revit server for collaborative workflows
  • Learn how to modify the Revit models and sync to the Collaboration for Revit central model
  • Learn how to update a Revit model with the changes in the linked model using Collaboration for Revit
  • Learn how to use BIM 360 Team to review the cloud-based model and compare the differences between different versions of models

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  • Deepak Maini 님의 아바타
    Deepak Maini
    I am a qualified Mechanical Engineer with more than 24 years of experience working in the design and construction industry. I am the author of the Autodesk Navisworks for BIM/VDC Managers, Up and Running with Autodesk Navisworks, Up and Running with Autodesk Advance Steel, and Up and Running with Bluebeam Revu series of textbooks. I am a regular speaker at Autodesk University in Las Vegas USA and was awarded as the Top Speaker in the Instructional Demo category two years in a row at AU Las Vegas 2018 and 2017. I was also voted as the Top Speaker at the Bluebeam XCON 2019 conference in Washington DC. Additionally, I am rated among the Top Speakers at various BILT conferences in ANZ and Asia. I am also privileged to be a guest lecturer at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS) and the University of New South Wales (UNSW), two of the biggest universities in Australia.
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      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, let's get started. So officially, thank you guys for coming to this class. We really appreciate that. And again, a big round of applause to you guys because of you, this class got sold out within two weeks. So thank you for that.

      All right, let's get started with our introduction. I'll start with my introduction. My name is Deepak Maini. I am the national technical manager with a company called Cadgroup Australia. Based out of Sydney, flew here on Saturday, and I'm still jet-lagged. Would you believe that? [CHUCKLES]

      So I'm based in Sydney. That's where our head office is. We've got offices in Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth as well. I've been speaking at AU for last six years, or five years. This is my sixth year as a speaker. I have been top-rated speaker for the last four years. Again, thanks to people like you who give good ratings to my session, I get that kind of rating. Hopefully we'll do a good job, and you think that it's a good class, and you give us good rating.

      I've also written a few books. This, as I said, is on a software called Navisworks. And this is on a software called Advance Steel, which is a steel design and detailing package. I'm also a guest lecturer and two of the main universities in New South Wales, which is the state where Sydney is, University of Technology Sydney and University of New South Wales, where I teach construction management. Love teaching construction management, especially to the student who have never been to the construction industry. It's amazing, believe me. No, it's not.

      [LAUGHTER]

      All right, so the funny thing is, at one of the presentations, somebody said, oh, that's a pretty cool profile. And I looked at it and I said, yeah, I've been doing all right for last 18 years. And then I went home, and I met this guy. This guy is my seven-year-old son, and he has a quadruple world champion. I'll repeat this again. He's a quadruple world champion in karate. Actually, the day he turned seven, he won three world championships. And the next day, the following day, he won one more world championship.

      So these are his world championship belts. The belts are bigger than this guy himself. This is his trophy cabinet, so all these trophies there, about 11 medals, world championship belts, and so on. And this is my trophy cabinet.

      [LAUGHTER]

      And every time I say-- his name is [INAUDIBLE]-- every time I tell him, [INAUDIBLE], you've got to do something, he says, Dad, look at my trophy cabinet and look at yours. [LAUGHTER] When you get to half of that, that's when you tell me to do something. [LAUGHTER] So as much as I was thinking I've got a cool profile, when I got home, I'm a nobody. [LAUGHTER]

      All right, Aaron's introduction, I'll let Aaron introduce himself.

      AARON COATS: Yep, I'm Aaron. I'm from Bates Smart in Sydney, Australia. My role involves software deployment and basically looking after the [INAUDIBLE] staff. We use a myriad of design technology applications, Revit, [INAUDIBLE], Navisworks, [INAUDIBLE], AutoCAD, CAD Points. And I also [INAUDIBLE] A360 courses as well to look after. So I'm looking forward to looking after that.

      I do-- one of my favorite hobbies is riding bikes. And it allows me to leave the office really quickly and join my family out of the office.

      DEEPAK MAINI: And this is his bike. We actually were planning this year, we'll come to Vegas. We'll hire bikes, and we'll go on a ride. But then it didn't materialize.

      All right, Mark's introduction, I guess.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Hi, my name is Mark Abrahams.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Welcome, guys, by the way. Welcome to this session.

      AARON COATS: Thank you.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Sorry, Mark.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Yeah, right. So I'm a BIM manager at DWP. DWP stands for Design Worldwide Partnership. We have offices over eight countries, 12 different studio locations in Australia, Asia, and Middle East. And we are primarily architects and interior designers.

      [SIDE CONVERSATIONS]

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Just reading what's on the screen there. Apparently I'm a certified Revit professional. That was quite a few years ago. I speak at a number of these conferences around the world. Based out of Newcastle, which is a few hours north of Sydney in Australia. Our office is right by the beach. I get to go-- we have a surfboard rack in the office. So I go surfing at lunchtime. We got an ocean bar right there. So it's a pretty good spot to live, pretty easy. And I also love snowboarding, which I've got to travel a bit further for. But that's pretty much me , I think.

      Oh, I've been doing this for a bit over 20 years. In all my jobs I've generally been a sort of CAD manager, BIM manager role. Ever since first office I worked for, my computer was the first office other than the receptionist office. And I started from there. So it's just progressed for over 20 years now.

      DEEPAK MAINI: And by they way, Mark loves dancing. This is Mark at one of the conferences in Adelaide earlier this year.

      [LAUGHTER]

      So tonight at party, when you see us, that's how we will be. Cool guys, and with the sunnies on as well. So, guys, by the way, the guys who came late, we were just telling that we're going to give away a lot of prizes in this class. And one the ones are these cool sunnies. I'm going to wear them again. See, cool sunnies.

      AUDIENCE: Yeah, yeah (WHISTLES)

      DEEPAK MAINI: But the only thing is, whoever wins the sunnies will have to come here and do a catwalk. That's the only criteria. So make sure you guys are ready for that. All right.

      Thanks to-- again, thanks to our sponsors. That's what we are going to do. We are going to give away all of these prizes because of these sponsors here. [INAUDIBLE] the mic.

      OK, now before we start with C4R, I though we were going to talk about kangaroos in Australia. And where did this come from? Last time after AU, after the Thursday night party, we went to one of the other parties. And I met this lady there. And she said, oh, I would love to come to Australia. And I want to ride kangaroos there.

      [LAUGHTER]

      That's a no-- that's one thing you do not do. So I thought in this year at AU, I'm going to first talk about kangaroos in Australia. So first of all, we do not have kangaroos roaming our cities, especially not the main cities, maybe outback and country towns, yes, but not the main cities. We definitely do not have kangaroos as pets. And most importantly, we do not ride kangaroos.

      [LAUGHTER]

      I think this is going to get me in trouble. All right, so we definitely do not ride kangaroos. Now in some cases, in outback towns and country towns, you might see a situation like this, where kangaroos might be roaming the streets and fighting. The way kangaroos are, their tail is pretty strong. They use their tails as a bar stool. They sit on that, and they fight with forelimbs. So that's why you've got to stay away from kangaroos.

      This I can tell you definitely does not happen.

      [LAUGHTER]

      Right, Mark? This definitely doesn't happen.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: And this, again, doesn't happen.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Actually, it does happen.

      [LAUGHTER]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Wasn't Glenn, was it?

      MARK ABRAHAMS: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right. There are situations where something like this happens, where this guy goes to outback and his dogs got caught by the kangaroo, and he punches a kangaroo.

      [LAUGHTER]

      But see how scared he is? Although he punched the kangaroo, he's so scared he's asking his dogs to run away. So this may happen once in about a million years. But normally, this doesn't happen. Normally this is what happens.

      [LAUGHTER]

      So no getting close to kangaroos, especially in the bush and outback towns, maybe in the zoo, yeah, but definitely not in the bush or outback. All right? OK, let's get into Collaboration for Revit. And I'm going to actually walk around, so I'll probably have to look back as well. OK, so if we--

      [SNEEZE]

      Bless you. If we look at the AEC industry, there are three main problems that we see that's hindering the industry. The first one is information sharing. And information sharing is because, as all of us know, BIM is not just Revit. BIM basically involves your offering files, which are like your Revit files or your ArchiCAD files, or your Navisworks files, but it also includes your Excel spreadsheets, your R files, your PDF files, and so on. So there's a lot of data that basically makes up BIM.

      Revit model worksharing-- so we've got a team sitting in Sydney. We've got the team sitting in Manila. We've got a team sitting in London. How do they work on the same model? That worksharing has been a big, big problem in the industry. Autodesk did come up with the Revit server to solve some problem, which basically, if you get it right, hopefully, it fixes the problem within your firewall in one office. But if you've got all these multiple offices, again, it just doesn't work, especially when you're working in a multi-disciplinary project, where you've got your architecture, structure, services, all these different disciplines and more.

      And then change communication-- somebody is working on a model, they make a change, and it's, as I said, a multi-disciplinary project, so the architect moves a wall. Who informs the services guys or the structural engineer or somebody else that something has been changed? That change communication has been a massive problem. So what is the solution?

      My director tells me I looked like her when I'm grumpy, which actually is most of the times when I don't get my vodka. All right, so the solution is Collaboration for Revit. Now it's a big statement to make. We are giving you a solution, Collaboration for Revit. But how is that a solution? What difference does it make?

      Anybody has used Collaboration for Revit here? I know some of you guys have. All right, fantastic. So you guys can come here and do the talking. I can sit down. Yay! No.

      All right, so what's Collaboration for Revit? So first of all, Collaboration for Revit is a BIM 360-based cloud subscription service that works with Revit software to connect the project teams from different locations, so that all of you could work in one single project. It is basically comprised of three main components-- BIM 3-- whoever is taking photographs, I'm going to charge you extra for that. So it comprises of three main components, BIM 360 Team, C4R-- so I'm going to use this acronym C4R, which is Collaboration for Revit, pretty cool acronym like glasses, sunnies-- so C4R Accelerator and C4R Communicator.

      So let's try to understand how are these components of Collaboration for Revit resolving the problem? So let's first look at the information sharing issue and how BIM 360 Team helps resolve that problem. So with your Collaboration for Revit license, you get access to a BIM 360 Team. As I mentioned, BIM is not just Revit. BIM comprises of all these different files. And there could be a number of other files as well.

      So all these files actually need to be stored somewhere at one single repository. And that is what BIM 360 Team does. It becomes your project directory, where you can not only store your Revit data, but pretty much any format file that you want. And last time when I checked, BIM 360 Team had viewers for 70-- seven zero-- 70 different native format files. So you could pretty much click on a Navisworks file, and it shows you the preview of that. You click on a Word document, it shows you what's in that. You click on an Excel spreadsheet, it shows you what's in that, PDF files, and so on. So 70 different native format files can be viewed on BIM 360 Team just by clicking on it, no viewers required, no nothing required, just out of your browser, nothing fancy.

      So as I said, it can be your one single project repository, where every information about your project could be sitting there, and you could be accessing that. And the way it works-- and this is what we are going to show you in this class-- we just add our project members, irrespective of which location they are in. We add our project members to our project, and they get access to all these different files and folders sitting inside our project directory.

      So as I said, you can not only use that single repository to share files between different members of your project. You can also preview the files, and you can do deep search. This deep search is an absolutely fantastic tool. What this does is you can click on the Revit model, it opens the Revit model. And you say I want to filter all the I-beams, or I want to filter all the curtain walls. So it hides everything or fades everything else and only shows you the curtain walls or a particular type of walls. So that deep search functionality is pretty fancy, pretty cool in this.

      So that was the information sharing problem. The next one is, how is C4R resolving the model worksharing issue? So as I said, when you install Collaboration for Revit on your machine, it installs a tool called C4R Accelerator, Collaboration for Revit Accelerator. The job of the accelerator is to sit in the background, look at your model, compare it with the cloud model, and see if there are some changes made, although you still haven't synced to central.

      And then sitting in the background, it looks at these changes and tries to download or upload the changes without you even worrying about that. Now the main thing is, why did Revit Server have all these problems? Because if there are 50 people in the project trying to sync, Revit is a single user access database. So if I am first one in the queue, all of you will have to wait for my sync to finish. And if my sync is taking 20 minutes, the next one-- his sync takes 10 minutes, and so on. Imagine the 50th guy or the good guy in the queue. By that time he's already made tens of different changes.

      And because of all that delay, we had all those problems with the file crashings and the file getting corrupt and so on. How many of you have had those problems with the files getting corrupt when you were trying to sync to central? See? Most of us have.

      So what this does is it sits in the background, just like a kangaroo-- cool-- and then looks at the changes and delta uploads and downloads the changes. So when you do your final sync to central, there are some tiny amount of data that needs to be synced. And we have worked with the projects where six megs of symmetry connection, just six meg of symmetry connection, does a brilliant job.

      We had a customer between Melbourne and Darwin, which is pretty much nowhere in the world. They were working on this massive hospital project in Darwin. And they were syncing to central with the Darwin project. And in the normal case, it was taking them about 45, 50 minutes to open the file. And they said, one out of three times the file would crash. And with C4R, it took them 40 seconds-- four zero-- 40 seconds.

      So that's where this Collaboration for Revit Accelerator does, it in the background. It delta transfers the changes. So when you actually sync to central, it's a lot quicker. So that's the job of C4R Accelerator.

      And then finally, we've got Communicator. All of us are from this technology era where we love quick access to the information, whether it's through text messages, chat, WhatsApp, Facebook chats, whatever it is. So what C4R Communicator does is it's like a chat window that-- you are leaving us, [INAUDIBLE]. How could you do that to us?

      [LAUGHTER]

      MARK ABRAHAMS: No one else dares leave now.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah no one is allowed to leave now. All right, so what this C4R Communicator does is it gives you the capability to do chats with the entire project team or a particular person in the project team. But the best part is, all this chat can actually be exported later on in the project. So for example, six months down the line, you want to find out maybe what was communicated and so on. You can export the chat. It exports it as a text file. You can use various automated tools to put it in a Word document or Excel or whatever you want. All that can be done.

      So it lets you do team chat. It lets you do one-on-one chat. But most importantly, it gives you clear information about the project-- who's online; who's actually not even working, they have gone to the pub down the road; or who's taken the day off, going to the beach like Mark. Mark lives about what? 10 meters from the beach. So who is gone to the beach to have fun?

      It gives you all that information there. And the best part is, it also gives you a contextual awareness of the project as to who's syncing the project, who's in what model doing what. So later on when we are doing live demonstration, we are going to show you how you'll be able to see that Aaron's in the architecture model, I'm in the structure model, and so on. It gives you contextual awareness of the entire project, giving you all the information as to what's happening.

      So basically, what I wanted to mention is the three main problems that we see in the AEC industry, how are we able to resolve those using Collaboration for Revit? And I just mentioned that we can use these smart tools to resolve those issues. We are going to show you a live demonstration of all these things as well. And it's going to be funny.

      So, have you ever been to a presentation where you got three speakers plugging in, plugging out, switching between those? It's going to be funny. And I requested them to have one of the lecterns sitting on the other side, so that way we are not crammed in one single room. Although we can feel the love, but we still want you to be on the other side of the room. But having said that, it's going to be interesting when we do the live demonstration.

      All right, now before we get into all that, I just wanted to talk about some project-based permission levels. So what happens is-- and by the way, did you guys download the handouts that I uploaded? I took a lot of time in creating that handouts. And that actually is a Bible that can take you all the way from scratch of C4R to the project delivery, starting from step number one. So make sure if you like the handout, give me five out of five for handout.

      So project-level permissions-- project admin is the person who creates the project on BIM 360 Team, which actually is step number two. Step number one is assigning the hub, which I've discussed in the handouts. So project admin is the person who creates the project on BIM 360 Team and invites all the team members.

      Now when I'm inviting the team members, I can invite them as editors or viewers. Editors are the people who actually would be working with Revit and syncing to the cloud central. These guys need C4R licenses. But then you have got viewers like construction manager or product architect, who actually is not going to work with Revit, but he needs access to the Revit model for the coordination meetings and mockups and so on. That's a viewer license. Viewers do not require a C4R license. They are free. So you can get as many views as free to the project.

      I'll make this slide available as a PDF file after the presentation as well. So that way, if you guys want to refer to something back, you can always do that because I'm going to provide that to you. The only thing is, I'm going to charge you extra for that. That's the only thing.

      All right, now before we get into that really, really, really-- and I can keep saying really, really, really, but really, really, really important thing about the C4R. Are there are two separate servers. This is where people get confused. There are two separate servers. There's a C4R server, and there's a BIM 360 Team Server.

      C4R server is where you upload the files for C4R workflow. This is where you upload your initial files. This is where your live Revit files are sitting. You are syncing to central here on C4R Server.

      This is where you'll link the files as well. You open the files from this location or this server, you link the files from this. But you know how you're working on an architectural model or a structural model, every 10 minutes, 20 minutes you're making changes, and every one hour you're syncing to central or whatever it is? Imagine the number of versions it's creating every time you sync to central. Do we need all those versions for our coordination meetings? No. So what we do is BIM 360 Team Server is where our files for viewing and mockup is sitting that people without the Revit license-- or sorry, without the C4R license-- or with the C4R license can access.

      So these people do not need to see every single version where we have just moved the wall here. We have saved and synced to central, and it creates a new version. These people do not need to see those files, right? They only need to see the files when we are ready to publish for our coordination meeting. So that's where our coordination meeting or your viewing files are sitting.

      But the best part is, version one of the files are automatically uploaded on the BIM 360 Team Server when you upload them to the C4R server. So for our C4R workflow, as soon as we upload the files to the C4R server, they are also automatically copied to the BIM 360 Team Server.

      But from there on, every single change version needs to be manually pushed. In a normal C4R project, we are going to push the file up for a viewing on BIM 360 Team every Thursday. So Thursday afternoon, we are going to run the coordination meeting. And we're going to use that location for that. We don't have to publish the file for viewing every day unless it is important for your project. Maybe it's something critical that you want to talk about. Then you can publish it whenever you want. But normally we say once in a week, maybe Thursday because that's when we run our coordination meeting.

      So the project that we are going to use for this presentation is a project called Boomerang Tower Case Study in Sydney by Bates Smart. So, Aaron, as he mentioned in his introduction, he's the national BIM manager of Bates Smart.

      So this is in the Sydney Olympic Park precinct. It's called Homebush, which is the suburb. And this is actually the project. A little image of the project-- I also have a little video that I'll play that gives you an idea of this project.

      [VIDEO PLAYBACK]

      [MUSIC PLAYING]

      DEEPAK MAINI: So that's the opera house and the harbor bridge.

      [MUSIC PLAYING]

      [END PLAYBACK]

      DEEPAK MAINI: So, Aaron, let me ask you this question. As a BIM manager on this project, do you get about four or five apartments in this building complementary?

      AARON COATS: No.

      DEEPAK MAINI: And can I get one of those, please?

      AARON COATS: OK.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, I'm going to hand it over to Aaron now. And he's going to talk about a few things about this project and normally as a company.

      AARON COATS: Thanks, Deepak. So as part of the presentation, we like to show an actual project using C4R and kind of go through the process that we went through. As you can see from the video, we're very fussy about the way the building looks-- wrong way.

      I'm from Bates Smart. We're a design lead practice. We like to work mostly at the front end of the projects. We're one of the oldest architectural practices in Australia. We've been around since, I think, 1853.

      And then mostly-- and we've survived, I guess, the dips in terms of the economy and try to keep a really good culture in the office as well. So one of the ways to do that, unfortunately, is to outsource projects. And we do that at outsource documentation for projects at the back end.

      So we're very fussy about the way it looks. We want a lot of control. And once we started outsourcing documentation, like a few projects, we found it was quite actually challenging. The issues that we found without C4R is around, I guess, the control of the model. We used firms in New Zealand and Vietnam.

      When we hand over the projects, we give them maybe CAD files or Revit files or Rhino file. They then translate it. We will get the models back. They will put them on ShareFile or some sort of platform like that.

      And then what would happen is you would then, if you needed a change, you would need to speak to them, email, that sort of thing, and hopefully get a response back in a fast timeframe. Previously we would have, obviously on the left, we have our Revit models over in Vietnam. We have tons and tons of emails, Skype, phone calls, and our design team sitting over in Sydney or Melbourne.

      We knew we needed to find a better way to do this. Luckily, about two years ago, they started the AWS Server, which does BIM 360 in Singapore. So it was feasible to do this. Mostly a lot of information traveling, and it's actually quite possible to do this, even using-- even in between Washington, where we're doing the Australian Embassy, and Melbourne and in other cities as well in Southeast Asia. So simple tasks such as getting a set of PDFs were not difficult, but it was just time-consuming. And you have staff who know how to use Revit but couldn't actually see the file. So we'd always get a mirrored copy of the file.

      OK, so the case study project is Boomerang Tower. We're using a design and construct contract. Basically we have a client, we won it by competition, and you get novated to the builder or the contractor. He becomes your boss. And basically he wants feedback as quick as possible. And we're using C4R for the architecture.

      So the three models we use is an architecture file, interiors file, and a facade file. And we use also structural disciplines for all their Revit models as well. And we have the design team located in Sydney and Vietnam.

      So the workflow that we used-- the primary modeling was done in Rhino. That controlled the facade. What we needed to do was have 100% of the apartments have solar access to the northern side. We then optimized that using Ladybug. We then pushed all the coordinates into Excel, read it back into Dynamo, and then fed it into Revit, and then had that connection via C4R with our team in Vietnam.

      The most important thing to remember is we didn't actually create the geometry in Rhino. We didn't push any geometry from Rhino into Revit. We actually only pushed the points, where we had families that would actually recreate the model as well. And that's what our team in Vietnam was doing.

      OK, so how did we solve the problem? So our design team had live access to the models at every stage of the project. There was greater collaboration. We had a better connection with our documentation partners. And it allowed us to monitor the models as well. We could see when the team members in Vietnam opened the model. We could see how long they're in the model. We can see when they synced. And we can see where they're syncing as well. And we'll go through that as well as part of the presentation.

      And then we also got to make minor changes in the model quite quickly. We could actually do markups on the screen, which they would see. So we would use a particular text style that was bright blue. And then the other team could see it as well. And we would obviously always communicate this via Communicator also.

      OK, so I guess just wrapping up, we still have to use things like Skype and email, but they have been drastically reduced using C4R.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, so what we did for this class was I requested a cable connection, which unfortunately we can't get in the hotel apparently. So what we did was I recorded some videos for some basic stuff. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to play the videos, and I'm going to talk over those videos to show you some basic functionalities. And then we are going to do the live demonstration.

      So getting started with the Collaboration for Revit-- the first step is to basically assign a hub to your project. Again, I have discussed that in detail in the handout that I've written. So once you download the handout, you'll be able to do that from scratch.

      I'm going to start from step number two, which is creating a project from scratch. So I'm playing a video here, where all we do is we go to BIM 360 Team and we sign in. And then from the top right, we have an option called Create Project. So these are all the projects that I can view. And I'm in the Team CAD Group hub.

      I'm a part of a number of different hubs as well. You could see there. So to create a project, you just specify the name. You pick an image, or you can create your own image and use it. So you just click on Create Project, and it creates a new project from scratch.

      Once that new project from scratch is created, you can then invite members to that project by simply clicking on Invite. You type in their email addresses, and you can define the role. In this case, Aaron's role is an editor. So as soon as I hit Send Invitation, Aaron straightaway gets an email that he has been invited to a Collaboration for Revit project.

      Once you accept that, you can see him here. Now there are three types of projects. We can create Open, Closed, and Secret. Closed projects are the ones that other team members can see but cannot participate in unless I invite them. But the secret project is that only the people I invite to, although they may be part of the hub, others cannot see. Only the people I invite to, only those people can see secret projects.

      So you know how initially I could see all those projects. If any of those projects were secret projects, and if I was not a part of the project, although I'm part of the hub, I will still not be able to see that project. All right?

      So normally, the projects that we create are closed projects because that way we invite people to those projects. And if somebody we have forgotten, they can actually click on that project, and they can say, I want to be invited to that. So that way I can decide whether I want to invite them or not. Whether they had bought me a beer or not, that decides that.

      All right, the next one is initial uploading of model for the C4R workflow. So at this stage, all our Revit models are sitting locally on our machines, or on network drives, or wherever they are. How do we get those models ready for collaboration for Revit workflow?

      What we do is we go and open the model. So in this case, I'll just simply go and say Open. As you can see, I'm going to my local drive, which is coming on from my D drive. I go to the Start Assets folder, and I pick the file that I need to upload.

      I'm opening this file here. Once this file is opened, that's when I'm going to go into this Collaborate tab and click on Collaborate, provided you are already signed in. If you are not, it will ask you to sign in. And then I'm going to go and say Collaborate Using Cloud, not Collaborate Using Revit Server. It says, all right, what project do you want to put this file in? So just specify the project and say Initiate.

      It starts the process of getting the model ready for workshare. If the model is not already workshare ready, it'll get the model ready for worksharing. And then it will then upload the model. What it also does is it creates a local cache of the model, which means next time when you're opening the model, it only needs to open the changes. The rest it opens from the local cache.

      But the best part is, unlike Revit Server, where every time you open and you say Create Local or whatever it is, we don't have to do that. It happens automatically in C4R. That's the best part.

      So what I did was I fast forwarded these videos, and you will see some funny things going on. So on the lower left corner, you can see the progress of your model as well, when it's uploading it, when it's getting it ready for C4R workflow. So it's now saving the local cache of the model as well.

      So this model has been uploaded for C4R workflow. I thought I'll probably upload a few more models as well. But again, I think that's waste of everybody's time. You guys get the idea. We open the model locally from our machine. We say Collaborate, Collaborate Using Cloud. That's how we upload all the models.

      So how does BIM 360 Team looks like after our first C4R upload? You remember I mentioned there are two separate servers? There's a C4R server and BIM 360 Team server. And if you remember, I mentioned after your initial upload to C4R, it automatically uploads the files for BIM 360 Team viewing as well. So this is how it looks like. If I go to my C4R project here, it says that these are the four files that you uploaded.

      What you can also do is you can create folders here and copy the files and folders. All these are version 1 files right now. And it tells me when these files were uploaded.

      I can go and say I want to create a new folder. So let's say you've got 10 different file formats, 10 different disciplines and so on. You can create a folder. In my case I just created a folder called Facades and Interior. And I'm going to move those files in there. So I've got Structure and Architecture sitting outside the folder. The rest of the files are sitting inside the folder.

      But this does not affect your workflow. Moving files and folders has no bearing on how you are syncing to central on C4R and so on. It still knows where those files are. So it's got absolutely no bearing on that kind of stuff.

      So if I go to this folder here now, I can see these two files. You don't have to do it, but if you've got a number of different disciplines, it is better to organize them in folders. As I said, it has got absolutely zero bearing on when you're syncing the files from Revit to this Revit central-- or the cloud central. It has no bearing on how the files are save here.

      All right, now let's talk about non-Revit users. So project engineers, construction managers, and so on, who actually need access to the files for markups and reviews and so on, but they're not going to use Revit. So how do we add those people? Again, the process is exactly the same that I showed you.

      We click on Invite. We specify the name of the person we need to invite or the email addresses. And then we go and change their role from Editor to Viewer, simple as that. As I mentioned, in case of viewers, you do not need license of C4R. Viewers are added for free. The only thing is, they can only participate in this project. You don't even need BIM 360 Team license. So you are added to that project, and you can access that project only.

      So you can see all the people that are added to the project here. There's also this option called View and Manage Members. So if your project was a closed project and somebody from your team went in there and said, I want to be invited to the project, you can click on this and you can see if there are any pending invites that you want to accept. All that can be done using View and Manage Projects.

      All right, linking files from C4R Server. So we have got all these files that all the have uploaded. Now the whole idea is to link these files so we could work in a collaborative environment. How does that work? We simply go and open the file from C4R this time, not from our local machine. So when we go and say Open, we open from C4R.

      If the file has already been opened, you would see this icon here. This icon tells you that it's a C4R or a BIM 360 file. If you don't see the icon, that means it is coming from your local machine. So it's a pretty good visual clue on your home page telling you which file is a C4R file and which file is not a C4R five.

      Alternatively, you can click on BIM 360 here, and you can go to the project from where you want to open the file, and you can just click on the file that you want to open. So now it's opening the file from C4R Server. And because it also had a local cache copy on this machine, it takes lot lesser time. The first download might take a bit longer, but otherwise, if it's already got a local cache, it opens it really, really quickly.

      You can see it [INAUDIBLE] in the background when I was recording the videos as well. I didn't do a good job on that, did I?

      All right, you can also see all the members of the project here. And we are going to talk about this in detail in a sec. But this file has been opened from C4R. And we can, as I said, see the members here. And this is the Communicator. We are going to talk about Communicator in detail.

      You can look at the contacts that you've been talking to frequently. You can go to the chat window, where you can chat with a team member or individual members. And this is the area where it gives you the contextual awareness of your project, who's syncing, who's synced when, and any comments that they added. Everything is visible right in front of you. How cool is that?

      This is what we were talking about, the model changes, how we get the information about who's changing the model, what people are doing. In the past, we did not have this visibility. Whereas now, we have that visibility right in front of us.

      To link the files, we go to the link folder. But what we do is we go and say link from the external resource, which is BIM 360. So that's where we are going to link the file from. And we select the file that we want to link. And I have sped up this process. Hopefully it will take just a few seconds. And once that is done, you go and say, OK.

      You can also go in and add other disciplines using the exact same process. But the main thing is we are linking from our cloud central, nobody's local drive. Right? Because all these files are sitting on the cloud central, when these disciplines are working and syncing to their central, we'll be able to reload these files with all the changes as well. That's the whole concept of Collaboration for Revit. That's how we are working in a collaborative environment.

      All right, as it's doing this, you can see all the Revit links here. All right, I'm going to click the Save button. So because I have made changes to this architecture file, I'll hit the Save button. Once it's saved the file, I'm going to go and say sync to the cloud central. When I click on this, this is the important dialog box. I strongly recommend you specify the comments here.

      Why are comments important? Let's say two weeks into the project we are on to version 13 of the file, and we realize that the changes that we made in last two weeks, the clients says, no, I don't want those changes. Roll back the model. So we can go to the previous version of the model. We can look at the datewise or we can look at the comments and roll back the previous version of the model as our current version. How cool is that? It's absolutely amazing technology.

      All right, now is the time where I'm going to ask a question for cool Bluebeam sunnies. All right, you remember the thing about the sunnies, whoever wins the sunnies will have to come here and do a catwalk? Nah, I was just kidding. All right, so if I go to BIM 360 Team, what version of my architectural file will I see there? You've got to help me out. You go to-- yeah, sorry, sorry, that gentleman.

      AUDIENCE: First version.

      DEEPAK MAINI: First version? Why first version?

      AUDIENCE: The initial upload [INAUDIBLE] to be is [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Exactly. So the answer was-- you guys can't hear it? I'll tell you. So he's spot on. I will still see version one of the file. Why? Because I've synced to the cloud central, but I have not published the file for viewing. Remember I mentioned version one of the file is automatically uploaded with the initial upload? But any other subsequent version needs to be manually published. So here you go, sir, cool sunnies. Ah, look at you, all these tags.

      All right, so let's get the files ready for publishing to BIM 360 Team. The process for that is-- see, as you can see, we are still on version one of the architecture file. If I go to my Revit model now, and you can see it was uploaded 20 hours ago, which was like about a month back. To get the model ready, the first thing we do is-- this is the tool that we use, which is called Manage Cloud Models.

      We go to the project. It gives us all the models in that project. And that's where we upload the files from. But one thing that we, or anybody who uses C4R, strongly recommends-- am I blocking the view? All right. One thing that we strongly recommend is before you upload these files, we should get the views and select only the important views that you want to take. Because this file had close to about 80 different views. If you publish the file with 80 views, it's going to take ages for that viewing model to be ready in BIM 360 Team.

      So what we do is go to this tool called Publish Settings. See how we would all the-- and these are just the sheets. And if I go and clear the filter, it's going to show me about 80 different views. We don't want to take all those views. So I'm going to filter it to 3D views. Anyone, just in case of 3D views, there are quite a few.

      We create a set. I'm going to call that set as C4R. And then I'm going to filter the-- these are all the views. Imagine. If I take all these views, it's going to take a lot longer to publish, a lot longer to get the file ready for viewing on BIM 360 Team.

      So I'm going to say I only want to take 3D views. I'll just type in 3D for search. It shows 3D views. And that's the view that Aaron created. We don't want that. We don't want Aaron's view.

      I'm just going to take our normal plain and simple 3D view. I'll his Save and Close. So once I hit Save and Close, from here on, every time I publish this model, it will only take this 3D view, nothing else. If you want you can add some 2D sheets and so on. 2D sheets are really handy when you want to compare the differences.

      That's what we are going to do. Later on we're going to show it to you, comparing the differences between different versions of the file-- absolutely fantastic in BIM 360 Team. So that's our C4R setting. This is our view that we're going to take. And now we're simply going to manage cloud models. We'll-- actually, I'm going to save to central again because I've created these cloud or BIM 360 views. So I'm going to do that. I'll save, sync to central, specify that I've created this C4R set. And then I'm going to publish that.

      All right, in the meantime, I might ass another the question, this time for the cool Bluebeam bottle.

      [WHISTLE]

      You guys ready? Nay, I'm going to keep this. [LAUGHS] All right, so in this model, if we would have made some more changes, and if I'm syncing to central here. As you can see I'm on version 3. When I publish this to BIM 360 Team, what version am I going to see there?

      AUDIENCE: Version 4.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Who answered? All right, somebody answered from here.

      AUDIENCE: I did.

      DEEPAK MAINI: You did? Version?

      AUDIENCE: Two.

      DEEPAK MAINI: 2, yes, version 2 again. Because although it's version 3 here, but when I publish, I'll be publishing it first time after the initial upload. So that's why I only get version 2 there. Thank you. So next time, guys, you got to be a bit louder, and you got to help me. Otherwise I can't figure out who's answering. And this in my eyes, the projector, that's making it harder.

      OK, so we are just uploading the file. I'm going to go there and check whether the files have been uploaded or not. As you can see, it's telling me it's published the latest version of the file. You can, as the publishing is going on, you can also close the dialog box and continue with your working. You don't need the dialog box to be opened. All right.

      AUDIENCE: Can you close the Revit?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Can you close the Revit? That's stretching the friendship a bit too far, man. I'm saying that's stretching the friendship a bit too far. Well, actually, if you try to close Revit, it will tell you-- or even if you try to publish another model, it will tell you that there's a model being published already.

      OK, so this is now BIM 360 Team. I refreshed, and now it's telling me that it's version 2 of the model, right? So irrespective of how many versions we create inside Revit by syncing to central, it'll only update the version on BIM 360 Team when you publish it next time.

      All right, so a quick word about handout before we do live demonstrations-- how are we doing for the time? I think we'll be all right. So a quick word about handout-- as I said, I put in a lot of information in the handout. Basically it could be your Bible for C4R from scratch.

      I've talked about setting up the C4R hub from scratch. I've talked about how to create users, how to assign C4R access to the users. But most importantly, I have talked about the process of deleting files. This is really important. I guarantee you, there will be lot of times in the project where you would say, you know what? I need to delete this file and upload a different file.

      So where do you delete the file from? That's the key. We have got so many customers who call us up saying, oh, I deleted the file on BIM 360 Team, and it's not letting me delete the file from C4R Server. It does not happen. So in the handout, I've explained in detail how to delete the file. So if that needs to happen, please make sure you refer to the handout.

      Then the next line is process of restoring the older version. As I said, we made a few changes for two weeks. The client comes back and says, you know what? I don't like this. Go back to the previous facade. So we can go and restore a previous version of the model as our current version as well. Again, explained in detail in the handout. And the other one is upgrading the older Revit version project to the new one. Again, we started the C4R project on 2017 version. 2019 comes along. And for some reason, we need to upgrade to 2019. How are we going to do that? Normally we don't recommend upgrading a project halfway-- or upgrading your Revit halfway through the project. But if for some reason you have to do that, what's the process? I've covered all that in detail in the handout as well.

      So as I said, I took a lot of time in writing the handout. Make sure you guys give me five out of five for the handout. Nah, just kidding.

      All right, before we get into the live demo, a question for a powerbank. How do the cool sunnies look?

      AUDIENCE: Cool.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Cool-- that's the question and that's the answer. I was just trying to figure out how many of you are still awake. There you go, man. You going to catch?

      AUDIENCE: Yeah.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, good catch. OK, live demonstration time-- sorry, what was that?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: But that was on my expense, so you have to tell me what it was.

      [LAUGHTER]

      Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: I have a question before you get to the live demo.

      DEEPAK MAINI: I'm going to charge you extra for the question in between the class.

      AUDIENCE: OK, [INAUDIBLE] or upgrading Revit or the [INAUDIBLE] models from one version to another, especially with the 2018 version. You can use the e-transmit. It will update all the files nicely. I was told you could do this, [INAUDIBLE]. But I'm not sure.

      DEEPAK MAINI: You can. But then you're talking about e-transmitting, downloading the model, e-transmitting and upgrading, which means you have lost the entire history of what happened in the project. Please, because-- Don't do that, please. Look at the handout. There is a very easy, simple way. I'll actually, when I do the live demonstration, I'll show you. It's really easy to upgrade the project. Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: On the demonstration [INAUDIBLE], can you sort the versions [INAUDIBLE] introduce them yet? Or does it always go 1, 2, 3?

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, so when we show the live demonstration, we'll have a look at that. OK.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Just to answer that as well, when you're actually in Revit and you go to open a project in Revit, it only shows you the projects of the version of the Revit that you're in at the time. So if you've got projects in 15, 16, 17, and 18, and you go to open a BIM 360 project in 2017, the only projects it lists are the 2017 ones, which makes it easier.

      DEEPAK MAINI: That actually is a very good point that Mark has just made, because we get phone calls from our customers saying, oh, I created this project for Revit 2017, but I can't see that project in my C4R. What's going on? So what happens is, when you invite members to your project, which was created for Revit 2017, somebody accesses that with 2018 and uploads the first file as Revit 2018. From there on, it will not be accessed through 2017.

      So if after that somebody uploads a latest version of the file into that project, the previous versions cannot see that project. We do get these kind of calls from our customers, saying, oh, something's wrong with C4R. I can't see it on my list of projects. Because somebody went in and uploaded a different version of the project. Thanks, Mark.

      All right, so we are going to do a live demonstration here. And it's going to be tricky, so you guys have to bear with us. Make sure you don't judge us on the technical problems.

      So the workflow that we're going to talk about is, Mark here is the construction manager. He's going to use BIM 360 Team. He's not going to touch Revit. Aaron is the design architect and the lead architect on the project. And I'm a little structural designer. I don't do much. I just come to Vegas, drink, enjoy my life. [LAUGHTER] That's all I do.

      All right, so I'll hand it over to Mark.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: All right, so I've just come out of a meeting with the client. And basically I've been advised that the geotech reports has come back, and some of these piles actually need to be changed. And the recommendation is we've got a number of piles in here that are 600 diameter and some of that are 900. And the recommendation is that we should probably-- we'll probably need to make those 900.

      So I've come in here. I'm putting a cloud around the piles. And I can make a note to basically say review diameter and update piles.

      DEEPAK MAINI: I'm not going to do it. You forgot to add please.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Please.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Be nice to me. I'm in Vegas.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: And then I come in here and I hit Save. And basically that will generate a screen shot with the cloud and put it over here in the project communicator. So the typical workflow for me otherwise, I would have probably gone, OK, I've got to write email. I've got to sit there. If you're anything like me and procrastinate, I probably would have gone and got a coffee first and then done a lot more of a formal communication. But what we find is just using this sort of simple communication method actually just starts to speed up the process.

      All right, now we've got to switch over to Aaron. I'm going to get good at this by the end.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Fingers crossed-- switch, please.

      AARON COATS: Oh, there you go. There we are.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Technology is working in our favor today.

      AARON COATS: All right. So as, for my part, so Mark is, as he's the construction manager, he doesn't use C4R. So he only uses Chrome to add his comments in. I'll just refresh the model. And then go up here to Comments. And I can see Mark's comment there.

      I can then click on the image, which actually takes me to the view as well. Actually, if I decide the Comments box so I can actually see it. Review diameter and update piles, please. So the next step is I've got to speak to Deepak, who is the structural drafter. And he will then make the change in Revit.

      So I won't communicate with Deepak in BIM 360 Team. I'm actually going to do that in Revit. So I've just remembered that. I then go to Revit. I then start-- oh, I've just navigated to the view that I want to show. I then go to Collaborate. I then go to Communicator. I've there got every projects.

      I can then see in Communicator, I can see everyone working on the team, which is great because you've got visibility. I can see, oh, I'm in the Architectural model. Deepak is in the Structural model. So he's in another model, and I can actually see that he's in there as well, which is great. And then I can also see that the other people who have access as viewers-- and you can see they have got little red dots there. So they don't actually in the models.

      DEEPAK MAINI: [INAUDIBLE]

      AARON COATS: [INAUDIBLE]. And now what I'm going to do is I'm going to communicate with Deepak to tell me of the next change.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Sorry, before you do that-- just, as you can see, this is what we're talking about, the contextual awareness of the model or the project. We can clearly see here that Aaron is in the Architectural model. That's the active model on the screen. Who else is in what model? Gives you a clear indication, clear visibility of what's happening on the project, something that we have never had in the past. Sorry.

      AARON COATS: OK, all right, so now I'm going to message Deepak. There, I'm going to message. And then you can see here down on the bottom right, you've got a couple of tools-- Image, Clip, Paste, and then you can add a file as well. So I'm going to pick Capture the Screen. Click here. I'm going to draw on a little box around it. Whoops-- sorry. And then I'm going to write-- I'm going to say, Capture.

      And then I'm going to write a message. I'm going say, Deepak, please review size as per geotech report and confirm. [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, so if we switch over to my machine now, so this is my Revit screen now with the structural model open from C4R. Again, as the contextual awareness, I can see that I'm in the active model, which is the Structural model. Aaron's in the Architecture model. So although I don't have the model linked, but I can still see who is working with [INAUDIBLE] model and so on just because they are part of the project.

      What I also straightaway see is this icon here, which all of us love when we are on Facebook chatting with our friends-- bing, message from our friends, right? But in this case, I'm not really keen on looking at that because that means I need to work. All right, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to click on this icon here. And it's telling me that there's a chart on this particular project. If it were the team chart it would show up here, all the members of the team of all the projects.

      I'm going to go in here. And I can straightaway see that Mr. lead architect is telling me to work again and make changes. So what I want to do is I actually want to tell him I'm not going to do it. Nah, I'm just kidding. But the thing is, changes like this obviously it is changing the foundation of the building. That's a major change in the building. So I need to go and check with the team. We need to make sure that we run all the calcs on this to make sure that this is done. Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: If you were the project manager instead of someone that's actually doing Revit, would that-- is there a way for that message to go to your email because you're not in this on a daily basis.

      DEEPAK MAINI: That actually is a brilliant question. When he sent the message, I actually got an email as well. I just don't have my email open here. But I would have actually got the email that somebody is added some-- as a matter of fact, when Mark added the mockup in BIM 360 Team, even in that case Aaron would have got a message. So everybody in the project gets the message that somebody has added some information on that project.

      So in answer to your question, absolutely, it does happen. I will give you for that question-- did you win anything? Oh, you already won something. Yeah. Did you win anything? Yeah, sorry.

      AUDIENCE: So when Aaron received the initial message--

      DEEPAK MAINI: --on BIM 360 Team? Because they were the coordination meeting.

      AUDIENCE: It took him to the location, a similar view of those piles.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Absolutely.

      AUDIENCE: But then he went to Revit, I guess. And, obviously, it was-- it's obvious where that was because it was the piles. What if it was buried in some [INAUDIBLE] up in building? Would it fly him to the right place in Revit?

      DEEPAK MAINI: That's actually a brilliant question. And the answer to that is not yet. So at this stage, this is-- and have you guys been to Revit Idea Station? These are the feedbacks that you can give to the Idea Station. So at this stage, we want to keep the communication from BIM 360 Team separate to that from the design team, because communication from the BIM 360 Team is between the coordination-- people in the coordination meeting and so on. Whereas the designer are putting their head down, bum ups, working on the projects and so on.

      So in answer to your question, at this stage the view from BIM 360 Team will not take us to that view on C4R. But as I said, not yet. All right, because you asked a pretty good question, I'm going to give you a [INAUDIBLE] for it. Or do you want sunnies?

      AUDIENCE: Sunnies.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Cool sunnies-- ready for catwalk?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, or maybe everybody who gets the sunnies, at the end of the class would come here, and we can take a photograph with them, with the cool people. Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] when Mark sends the email version of the comments to the BIM manager, we can see it there. Why should someone go in Revit then--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Because I don't have my email open.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Or as in why did we switch formats? Why did we-- like why didn't I just--

      AUDIENCE: From here to there, then you add the Mark [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, the reason-- that actually is a really good question. So the question that the gentleman asked was, because I'm in the project, when that markup was added in BIM 360 Team, and I'm part of that, I already got that message. Why do I need-- why do Aaron need to go and add in the markup. The answer is two. One, you may disable the notification if you don't want to see the notification. So if I have disabled notification, I don't get it.

      And two, I don't know who Mark is. Mark is a construction manager. I don't work for Mark. I work for Aaron. So I'm going to take my instructions from Aaron.

      AUDIENCE: Kind of like organization.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, it's the organize--

      AUDIENCE: But it can be done?

      DEEPAK MAINI: It can be done, absolutely. If you want to follow that kind of procedure, it can be done. But in our case, we want to follow the right chain of commands because six months down the project, when somebody says you changed all the pile caps. That's a massive change in the project, in the structural integrity of the project. Why did you do that? And I'll say, oh, that's because Mark said that to Aaron.

      AUDIENCE: --control.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah.

      AARON COATS: So another to add to that as well, it's also highlighting the difference between editors on the project and viewers. So Mark would be a viewer on the project. And he doesn't have C4R access. So it's one good way to kind of, I guess, allow construction managers into the project on BIM 360 Team without allowing them to download a model as well. So it's-- yeah.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Sorry, so, yeah?

      AUDIENCE: Question-- when he sent you the comment on Revit, he sent it directly to you? What if it is affecting several--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Brilliant question.

      AUDIENCE: --want to send a comment, the same comment, to everybody?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Brilliant question-- so just like it's a one-on-one chat, you also have your team chat there. So you can do a team chat where it goes to everybody in the team. Yes, please.

      AUDIENCE: So I know that BIM Team will hold onto the comments [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: That is correct.

      AUDIENCE: When you use Communicator, will those be part of the comments then on BIM 360 Team?

      DEEPAK MAINI: No.

      AUDIENCE: So if you want to say, hey, I'm tired of dealing with the construction manager, and you're just-- sorry-- [INAUDIBLE]

      [LAUGHTER]

      You don't want to--

      DEEPAK MAINI: We don't say things like that.

      [LAUGHTER]

      AUDIENCE: But I just wanted to make sure that those comments stayed private.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes.

      AUDIENCE: And that certain thing will happen in the [INAUDIBLE].

      AUDIENCE: Would you say [INAUDIBLE], if they had a-- if they were in the team chat, do they [INAUDIBLE] go on to their view? Or if there's notifications, [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, so the question is, if it's a team chat, and there are 10 people in the team, but only four are on C4R, what happens to the remaining six? The remaining six, obviously, because they don't have C4R open, they won't see the comments. As soon as they fire up C4R, they will see that little icon on the top that there's some stuff for them to look at. Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: How long is it going to be before you have the [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: OK, so first of all, I'll clarify one thing. When you say "you--"

      [LAUGHTER]

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: OK, so when you say "you," I'm not Autodesk.

      AUDIENCE: OK.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right. But I would love that to happen, because as I said, I've written books. I think you guys came late. I've written books on Navisworks. I do a lot of stuff on Navisworks. I run coordination meetings on Navisworks, run clashes and so on. I would love that to happen. But in answer to your question, I have nothing to say, because I'm not Autodesk.

      But that's a great feedback. If I were you, I would go to the Revit Idea Station and put that feedback there.

      [INTERPOSING VOICES]

      One last questions before we start with the-- sorry-- OK, yeah, because I like you guys, I'll give you two directions, one each.

      AUDIENCE: We are working with central models, right?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Cloud centrals.

      AUDIENCE: We have to keep in mind relinquish features?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, if you make some changes and you try to close the file without syncing to central, it'll display the same dialog box, do you want to relinquish changes, and do you want to cancel the file and so on. It will display those things. But that is if you have made some change and you are not syncing to central. Yes?

      AARON COATS: There is another way of controlling that as well. You can actually just go in and relinquish other people's if they've forgotten to do that. So you can do it through the C4R application.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, sorry, one last question before we do the--

      AUDIENCE: --without changing your username?

      AARON COATS: Yeah, without changing your user name.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, one last question.

      AUDIENCE: A challenge that we're having currently with C4R is dealing with shared parameters files and [INAUDIBLE] files. [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, so can we actually answer that after the class, because it is more like some technical things. And again, we just want to-- this class is over the overall workflows. But I will answer that thing after the class.

      All right, so I'm here now. And I've been told to make these changes. I look at my Revit model. I'll say, all right. Look at my pile caps, click on this. So this is a one pile circle, seven [INAUDIBLE] BP1. And I've got a few more, which is this one here. If I go to this one, that's now pile cap with two piles.

      Now I'm in Vegas. I've had a few drinks. And I'm going to change this structural model.

      [LAUGHTER]

      Now watch carefully what I'm going to do. I'm going-- because I'm going to ask a question about this later on. And the question is for the Navisworks book. So watch this carefully. I'm going to select all of these. And I'll say, all right. Multiple components selected, I'll go and say select the structural foundation components. It says multiple family selected. Obviously as we saw, we had the pad footings. We had pile caps. We had pile caps who had triple square side and so on.

      All I'm told is to change it based on the geotech report, which was BP4, the 900 pile. I'm going to go out and do this. All of these modified-- fantastic.

      All right, so I've made those changes. I'm happy with this. And what I'm going to do is, obviously I've made the change, I'm going to say Save-- Control S. And I'll go and say Collaborate, synchronize to central. And again, as I said, under Comments, it is important to add the right comments because a few weeks into the project, if you need to make another version as our current version, we could easily do that if we have the right set of comments. Although we can also go by date. But again, problem is if it's by date, it's hard to figure that out.

      Changed all the piles to 900 dia BP4 as per the request by Aaron. OK, I'll make this change. So as you can see, I'm syncing to central. Now although I have made a decent change here, but it's saying only 2 megs of that need to be uploaded. And this is all happening on the Wi-Fi of this conference, which is so slow that I can't even believe that. [LAUGHTER]

      Have you guys experienced that? Oh my god, especially during the breaks when everybody is on their phones, it is so slow. But this all happened on that Wi-Fi. And as I was doing that, this is my Communicator. It's telling me that I have changed the files, and I've synced to central and so on. And if Aaron was live looking at it, he would actually see this happening, telling him that I'm syncing this to central.

      Now the question is, have I got this file available with this version on BIM 360 Team?

      AUDIENCE: No.

      DEEPAK MAINI: No, exactly. So what I'm going to do is, I'm going to ask a question about this extra small size shirt, which I think is only one lady who-- I don't even have to ask question. You can get it anyway. All right. All right, then I won't ask question.

      So what I'm going to do is I'm going to get this file onto BIM 360 Team so Aaron and Mark can have a look at it. I'm going to go and Publish Settings. So as you could see, I've got C4R set that I showed you in the video, which only has got this 3D view. Now what I would recommend is, if you have some specific 2D views, you can even take those. Because when we are running comparison, you can run comparison on 2D sheets as well-- absolutely fantastic.

      So going to go and say Cancel. I'll say Manage Cloud Models. It says, all right, what project do you want to go to? Funny thing, when we were testing it this afternoon, I went to the project that I created, and it said you don't have access to the project.

      [LAUGHTER]

      So anyways, I'll go to this particular project here. And it says these are all the files in the project. And I'm in the Structure file here. It would tell me that the latest one need to be published. I'll click on this. And it says the publish process is going to start. You can close the dialog box as you're publishing it.

      So I'm going to close the dialog box. I'll also send a little chat information to Aaron here. And I'll tell Aaron that I've made the changes. So I'll use the same process that Aaron used. Again, the reason I'm doing this is because later on, if you need to export all this chat history, we have all these details here. I'll say Capture, made the changes-- if I could spell it right, obviously-- after running the calcs. File already synced. So-- I didn't spell it right, did I?

      AUDIENCE: Sunked.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Sunked, we are all sunked.

      AUDIENCE: You are in Vegas.

      DEEPAK MAINI: That's right, we had a few drinks, right? Yeah, that's right. So if Aaron was on this project live, he would straightaway see that these changes have been made. If we quickly switch over to Aaron's machine now-- all right, so this is Aaron's machine. And we can see that the file is already "sunked." He can see that.

      And now all Aaron needed to do is, because the structural designer has informed him that the changes have been made, he just needs to go into his Manage Links. And then he just need to reload the Structural link. And that's what the live collaboration is doing for you. We are lucky with these live models. We have got contextual awareness of the project, who's doing what. And as soon as-- if that affects the Architectural model, we just go and load the latest version of the model. Maybe architect moved some walls, and the interiors need to do that as well. So the interiors can reload the Architectural model and move whatever they need to move. So as soon as he does that, you can straightaway see that all these have been updated live. And again, all this happening on this Wi-Fi of this conference.

      All right, so now this is done, and I've already published the file for viewing. Aaron informs Mark that this has been done. If we switch over to Mark's machine-- and remember, Mark's just using BIM 360 Team. He is not using C4R. All right, so if we go to our C4R project, Mark--

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Yep.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Mark.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: So that was--

      DEEPAK MAINI: So we can-- sorry-- we can see here that the Structure file still is showing version 1 because Mark hasn't updated his page. So if you just update this page-- if you just copy and paste that link on a different window. This is sometimes-- we have found that if it's taking a bit longer on a particular page, copy and paste that link in a new window, and it's a lot quicker that way-- hopefully.

      All right, that's right, if you switch over to my machine, we can run it on my machine. See, this is the thing. I've got this massive laptop that I'm using, and these guys are on these fancy Surface Pro tablets and so on. And my little-- not little, my massive laptop-- but it's bulky. It still does the job that as these fancy Surface Pros and so on. See, that's the thing.

      All right, so if I go to BIM 360 Team here, it's telling me that it's version one file, which was uploaded on 22nd of September. See, I've been working on this project for you guys for last two months. I'll hit the Refresh button. When I hit the Refresh button, see? See, my computer? And expensive Surface Pros and so on.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: I'm in there now. It's all done now.

      DEEPAK MAINI: You know what I mean? Right. All right, so it says version 2. I'll hit the-- so and this is all BIM 360 Team. And imagine if this was Mark. Mark just-- on my guest information that the structure has been updated. He obviously doesn't trust me. He wants to find out what are the changes. So Mark clicks on this file here. And it opens this file.

      And this is what I was mentioning. If you have got a lot of views that you are publishing, this process of opening this file on BIM 360 Team will take longer. So be a bit careful about what view do you want to upload to your BIM 360 Team model.

      So once we are here, I'm looking at this model here. But I can't see what are the changes because, again, it's hard for me to confirm the changes. Although I can click on any of these objects and look at the properties. I can see here that the properties have been changed to 900 dia BP4 piles, which is great.

      But this is a pretty obvious change. Someone mentioned that there could be massive amount of changes. How do you know what all the changes are? This is where BIM 360 Team has an absolutely fantastic tool called Model Compare. The way it works is, I'm going to go here, and I'll say I want to compare versions. It says, all right, what versions do you want to compare? I'll say I want to compare version 2 against version 1.

      And in here, if I had those 2D sheets uploaded, I could even compare on those 2D sheets. But I'll say on this 3D view, I want to do a comparison. I'll his Compare. As soon as I hit Compare--

      AARON COATS: I'll just grab a bottle of water.

      DEEPAK MAINI: As soon as I hit Compare, it is now comparing the two versions of the model. And most importantly, on the top right, it actually comes up with this message that there are 107 items removed, 94 modified. And the best part is I can say I only want to look at the removed items. So I can filter out this. Now it's only showing me the removed items.

      Now my question to you is, in my Revit model, I did not remove anything. Why is it showing me removed? And this is the question for the book, so you've got to help me. Yes, please. Sorry, sorry--

      AUDIENCE: It's the piles that was changed from one to-- from three to one. We changed the [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: Exactly. See, I'm in Vegas. I had a few drinks. So instead of going into that particular category or the family and changing that family from 750 dia to 900 dia, I selected everything and change everything to 900 piles, which I totally changed the family. Basically it's like deleting the objects and placing new objects and so on, or modifying those objects.

      So you are spot on, sir. Do you use Navisworks?

      AUDIENCE: Not yet.

      DEEPAK MAINI: OK, there you go. Congratulations. You ought to come and see me after the class, so I could take a photo with you. So do you guys get the point? And that's why I did that so I could ask this question here now. Basically what happened was I mainly deleted those objects.

      But the cool ones are modified ones. If I had these modified ones, it said there are 98 items that are modified. If I click on these items here, it shows me this window. But the best part is it tells me that in version 2 file, this is how it looks like. And in version one, this is how it looked like. How cool is that?

      If I go to this one, it says this is how it looks like in version 2, and this is how it looked like in version 1.

      AUDIENCE: So cool.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Absolutely amazing, even cooler than our sunnies, isn't it? So I can go to any of these piers, and I can say, all right, this is how it looked like in version 2. And this is how it was in version 1. So the point I'm trying to make is that this tool, called Compare Versions Inside BIM 360 Team, is absolutely fantastic. It lets you compare the versions in the 3D view, or it could have been in the 2D view. Yes, sir?

      AUDIENCE: Does is provide you a variance report?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Brilliant question-- the answer is no.

      [LAUGHTER]

      And the answer is no-- OK, sorry, I'll repeat the question. The question was, can we export this report of all these changes? The answer is, at this stage BIM 360 Team does not give you the capabilities. But I know the Autodesk team is working on integrating BIM 360 Team with BIM 360 Docs. And I have seen, I have tested it myself. When I perform the same thing in BIM 360 Docs, you can export the report. And it is amazing. So hold onto that thought, guys. It is coming. Your BIM 360 Team is getting integrated with BIM 360 Docs. Once that happens, you will be able to export the report.

      All right, before you guys ask questions. I'm going to ask a question for a cool sunny again. You guys ready? OK, so the question is, going back to BIM 360 Team-- if I just close this. And if I go back to my project here, I've got some files sitting in the folders and some files sitting outside. When I go and upload the Facade file, the latest version of the Facade file, will it go inside the folder, or will it place it outside the folder? Again, you've got to help me out. Yes, sir?

      AUDIENCE: Inside the folder.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Inside the folder, absolutely. Again, if you remember, I mentioned that creating folders on BIM 360 Team has got no bearing on anything. Once you upload the revised version of the file, it knows exactly what file it is, and it updates the version of that file-- cool sunnies. You've got to do the catwalk. You especially have to do the catwalk.

      All right, I do have some of these koozies to give away as well and the mouse pads. So let's see who asks some intelligent question, and then I'll give you those things. Yes, sir?

      AUDIENCE: If you're working on your local workstation, it doesn't amend the username anymore?

      DEEPAK MAINI: What was that's, sorry?

      AUDIENCE: It doesn't amend-- like a [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: The message, yeah?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] it would amend your username. [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, yeah, revert username, yeah.

      AUDIENCE: Is that still in the--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, you'll still get that message that your username is updated based on your login.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Oh no, I think you're asking about at the top, where you want to see your username appended to the end? Is that what you mean?

      AUDIENCE: Well, yeah.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Yeah, and no, it doesn't do that.

      AARON COATS: And that's actually quite important. When you say you've got an existing model that's already worked and you're putting it up to C4R, you've got to make sure you do that from within the central file because it, by default, takes the file name that you upload. So if you've done it from your local, it will upload the file with your username at the end of it.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: There is a local file on the C drive as well.

      DEEPAK MAINI: So inside the temp directory, it creates a local file, which is your cache file. And that's where, when you open the file from C4R, it opens that file from. Do you want a mouse pad or a koozie?

      AUDIENCE: I'll take the koozie.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, please?

      AUDIENCE: When using CAD files--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Oh, I was hoping you would not ask the question. OK, so the question is, can we link AutoCAD or Civil 3D files, which again is a big part of the equation. The answer is yes and no. No, not directly yet from the C4R BIM 360 Team location. But yes, you can create a shared directory through a shared cloud methodology. It could be Dropbox. It could be Box. It could be any of those things. Because that part is exactly the same on all the enduser's machines. So if there are these-- there's a shared directory that you create inside that where you upload your AutoCAD or Civil 3D files. And you link from that, everybody will have access to it. Koozie or mouse pad?

      AUDIENCE: Mouse pad.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Is anyone from Autodesk in here?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Anybody from Autodesk?

      AUDIENCE: It's possible? [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Sorry, are you from-- I thought you said you were from Autodesk. My apologies. Are you from Autodesk?

      AUDIENCE: No.

      DEEPAK MAINI: OK, right, sorry. Sorry.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: We'll let him ask the question now. My apologies. All right.

      AUDIENCE: It's possible to compare 3D, but it's possible to compare 2D?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Absolutely. So if you would have published-- while publishing to BIM 360 Team, if you would have published your 2D sheets as well, from that list that I just showed you, you could go in and say I want to compare on 2D sheets not a 3D view. Would you like a koozie? It's a really cool koozie.

      All right, so I will give this gentleman-- here, where are you? Oh yeah. So you had a question.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: No, he's from-- well, all I was going to say is, I'm not from Autodesk, so I can't say dates really, but I do believe that the ability to link DWGs is coming within a matter of months rather than a long period of time.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, we were told that it's coming soon. And that's why I said not yet, but soon. Sorry, did you have a question?

      AUDIENCE: No.

      DEEPAK MAINI: OK, yes, please.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Are you from Autodesk?

      AUDIENCE: Yeah.

      [INTERPOSING VOICES]

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Give him a mouse pad.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, please.

      AUDIENCE: Do you [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Give him a mouse pad.

      [LAUGHTER]

      AUDIENCE: Do you have an example that the team could use the C4R [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: BIM 360 Team? Yes, absolutely. There's this massive project in Perth. It's called Perth Children's Hospital. And BIM 360 Team-- they didn't C4R because it started five years back. But BIM 360 Team was used on that project for model compare, comparing of Navisworks models, comparing of Advanced Steel models, comparing of Revit models. They used BIM 360 Team, not even for the markups and so on. They used it just for the model compare, because that compare is so much better than Navisworks compare.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Sorry, another one to that is, we've used that when tendering projects. If you don't want to give out the model, you can actually just add them to a project and then send it out as a viewer.

      AUDIENCE: One of the concerns that would be on the C4R would be [INAUDIBLE] users for projects [INAUDIBLE], that they could actually be an editor on different projects and not just [INAUDIBLE] in setting up a user and setting the task-- project specific or [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: They are put in specific. So in the project you define their role, whether they are editors or viewers.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: But is the question though that can the architects open up the structural engineer's view? Yes.

      DEEPAK MAINI: The answer is yes, yeah. All right. Oh, sorry, I'll give you the koozie. Do you want koozie or Dead Fred?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Dead Fred is just a guy lying on the floor. I don't know. I don't even know what-- does anyone know what Dead Fred does?

      [LAUGHTER]

      It just-- in yesterday's class everybody said, oh, I want to go for Dead Fred. I don't even know what this guy does. Apparently you can poke a pencil in his heart, so that becomes your pencil stand. But do I really want to do that? So what do you want, the koozie or Dead Fred?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, you want to catch? All right, yes, sir?

      AUDIENCE: What do you experience on the file sizes?

      DEEPAK MAINI: File sizes? I'll let these gents, because they have actually been working on live projects. I know, in one case, we had a customer who was working between Perth, London, and Manila, and some of their files were like about 550 megs, and they still didn't have any problem. Because remember, it creates a local cache copy, and it only is transferring a little bit of data. That's what it is. Yes, sir? Sorry. Koozie? Sorry, we'll let this gentleman ask the question.

      AUDIENCE: The project Boomerang, do you have your subcontractors also on C4R construction [INAUDIBLE]? Does that [INAUDIBLE]?

      AARON COATS: No, no it's just our way of, I guess, documenting the project.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Oh, I haven't asked a question about the book. You can't win the book if you're leaving.

      [LAUGHING]

      AUDIENCE: Just the design-- just the design team.

      AARON COATS: Yeah, just the design team.

      AUDIENCE: Don't you have projects where [INAUDIBLE] subcontractors?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, there are projects where subcontractors are being asked.

      AUDIENCE: Asked? Is that as far as it gets?

      DEEPAK MAINI: No, it gets further, but I'm not going to say that. But, yes.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: That's, I think where the real value is. Yeah.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yep.

      AUDIENCE: So when I actually send the model to the contractor, [INAUDIBLE] You don't want to send-- you want a [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: Look, if that is the case where you don't trust somebody with things, then--

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Do you mean like locking you out of workset, or do you mean--

      AUDIENCE: I [INAUDIBLE] removed placecode elements, for example. He just, for example, edited placecode elements for structure, placecode elements for us. So they don't get confused with [INAUDIBLE]. Or if we are doing the [INAUDIBLE]. It's not because we don't trust. It's because they can't maybe [INAUDIBLE] confused.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: I mean, I don't think that's really been solved yet. But I think that it hasn't really been solved, I think, with the technology the way it is.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, it's not--

      MARK ABRAHAMS: I think you need another method to--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah it's not yet there. But again, these are the things that you could put on that feedback form, like the Idea Station. And then you can ask that question. All right, before you guys ask a question, can I ask a question for the book because I don't want to take it back to Sydney. I want one of you guys to win it.

      All right, again, how many of you guys use Navisworks? So only the people who use Navisworks are allowed to answer, nobody else-- and the gentleman who has already won the book. All right.

      AUDIENCE: Maybe I want to learn.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: That's a good point.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Oh my god. I want to shake your hand. I want to shake-- you know what? I will ship you a copy. Let's see if you can with this. If not, get my card.

      AUDIENCE: He lives in Brazil.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Now that's stretching the friendship way too far.

      [LAUGHTER]

      AUDIENCE: But I want to still [INAUDIBLE] other one.

      AUDIENCE: --from Amazon. And they send to Brazil.

      DEEPAK MAINI: My book?

      AUDIENCE: Yes

      DEEPAK MAINI: Which one? Advanced Steel?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      DEEPAK MAINI: Oh, I'm going to shake your hand again.

      [LAUGHTER]

      So this gentleman purchased my Advanced Steel book from Brazil and got it shipped to Brazil.

      AUDIENCE: Yes.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, now I am so obliged to actually do something for you. What I'll do is I'll give you the digital version of the file, or of the book, that you can install on your PC, your tablet device, your mobile and so on. You happy with that? All right, I'll give that to you.

      All right, so the question for the book-- can you run clash detection in C4R?

      AUDIENCE: No.

      DEEPAK MAINI: No, see, that's not fair. I don't give it to that gentleman there.

      AUDIENCE: It's no.

      [LAUGHTER]

      DEEPAK MAINI: The answer is yes. You can run clashes in-- basic clashes in Revit.

      AUDIENCE: Well in Revit, yeah. But not in C4R though.

      AUDIENCE: Not C4R.

      DEEPAK MAINI: But C4R is Collaboration for Revit. That's Revit in that.

      AUDIENCE: It was tricky.

      DEEPAK MAINI: It was trick question? All right. I'll give it to you. That's all right. I'll give it to you. Congrats, man. Cheers.

      AUDIENCE: I have a question [INAUDIBLE]. So [INAUDIBLE] that you model in Revit that are not a part of C4R, how is everybody dealing with those.

      DEEPAK MAINI: All right, that's a brilliant question. So we had this project in Perth, where the services consultants, they said, we are not going to live upload the model because we make changes that we don't want you to see. So it kind of created a whole-- it kind of defeated the purpose of C4R. But then the way they worked around that was, they said, all right, every Friday we are going to publish the model.

      So the model that they had their, the services model, especially the mechanical duct work and so on, that was at an average about seven days old model, unless it was a Friday, right? So the way it worked was you had to delete the original model from C4R. And again, the process of deleting that is discussed in the handout. And they would upload this as a new model. But because it was the same name, you had to go in all the linked files, and you had to reload-- actually, no, sorry, my apologies. Reload did not work. The had to relink. Because it kind of lost the connectivity. So reload did not work. They had to unload and relink files.

      AUDIENCE: So I apologize for asking this rather difficult question. I work for a government organization. And I'm not sure if you've collaborated with any of those in their neurotic server control.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yep, a very common question we get asked.

      AUDIENCE: If we somehow get access even to Autodesk 360 in the future, would we be able to control maybe the C4R servers? Or is there--

      DEEPAK MAINI: So that, again, is a brilliant question. And we get asked this a lot, especially for the fact that C4R is not even hosted on the Australian server. So a lot of our government clients, they say, oh, we can't use the cloud service, one, because it is not in geographically located inside Australia, which means we'll have to either upload on the Singapore server or the US server. That's a big problem.

      So in answer to your question, I think they are working on a process where they'll be able to give you access to your own cluster that you could use. But because I'm not Autodesk, I have no idea where it is at. The last time I checked, they said we are thinking about that. So my apologies for this answer. But that is something that we hear so much back home, especially the government and the Air Force and Navy and so on.

      Yes, please? Sorry, my apologies. All right, you're next.

      AUDIENCE: One easy question, I think--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Oh, easy question? I love easy questions. Anybody who has one the sunnies, they can't leave because they've got to come here and do the catwalk.

      AUDIENCE: So how many versions will it handle? How do you--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Previous versions?

      AUDIENCE: Yeah. I don't think there actually is a limit. Is there a limit for previous versions?

      MARK ABRAHAMS: We haven't hit that.

      DEEPAK MAINI: I don't think there is.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: That's a good question.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] back for however long [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: Good question-- I haven't actually checked that. But I know that I saw a model that had about 27 previous versions and so on. And then I, just to test it, I rolled back, I think, about five version. But I'll have to-- send me an email. I'll test it for you.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] sorry.

      DEEPAK MAINI: No, that's all right. I like those questions. Sorry, I'll give this gentleman--

      AUDIENCE: Is there a storage capacity [INAUDIBLE]? Like [INAUDIBLE] files, but is Autodesk going to limit you how much you can save up there?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, so what they were saying was that the capacity at this stage is 500 gigs. But they're not monitoring it. That's what they told us. It's 500 gigs, but they are not monitoring it, which means if it's more than 500 gigs, it's still all right. But having said that-- sorry?

      AUDIENCE: That's per license?

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Per project.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] per project.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Per hub.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Project.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Hub.

      AARON COATS: No, per team hub. So if you've got a team hub for your office, there's a--

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, there's a limit of 500 gigs. But what they are saying is that, at this stage, they are not monitoring it. If it goes more than 500 gigs, what happens after that, I'm not too sure at this stage. Sorry.

      AUDIENCE: If I'm uploading [INAUDIBLE].

      DEEPAK MAINI: Good question-- so this got asked some time back, where for some reason somebody wanted to look at the local version of their cache file. I think something happened. The answer is, yes. There is a part where you can go into your local file and you can open that, yes.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

      MARK ABRAHAMS: It's a different location than your normal local files, but yeah.

      DEEPAK MAINI: It's a different.

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      MARK ABRAHAMS: Yes.

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] has a central file [INAUDIBLE] open at a non-central file.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: It will be--

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] with everything. [INAUDIBLE]

      MARK ABRAHAMS: It's just hidden, and it's just got a funny name to it. It's in app.r.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yeah, it's in app.r just a massive funny name, I think about 50-odd characters or something.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: It's all coded. It's handy if you use 3D Studio Max and you want to link the Revit file into Max. And then you're using C4R at the same time. That's one reason to want to find it.

      DEEPAK MAINI: Yes, sir? Sorry.

      AUDIENCE: Is there anything in the number of members that you can invite?

      DEEPAK MAINI: I don't think there is a limit to that, as many people buy the license, they can. Yes, please.

      AUDIENCE: Can you link-- or upload an IFC?

      DEEPAK MAINI: You can upload an IFC file, but can you link an IFC file? I don't think at this stage you can link IFC files. At this stage it is only Revit files, but that's what Mark mentioned. That they are adding more functionalities, starting with AutoCAD files, so maybe in the future. Yes, sir?

      AUDIENCE: I've worked on projects where I have like five, six different models linked in. I have to turn off a lot of [INAUDIBLE] in order to not-- it'll take like 10 minutes to open. Am I doing something wrong? Or am I not creating that local cache or [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: I don't think there is any settings to do that. Get your local Autodesk reseller to look at your machine, because that does not sound right.

      AUDIENCE: And it's only--

      MARK ABRAHAMS: How big is the file? How many files do you have?

      AUDIENCE: So about five or six big files.

      DEEPAK MAINI: How big the files?

      AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]. My file is [INAUDIBLE].

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Oh, no, that should be-- yeah that should be fine.

      AARON COATS: Internet speed plays a big part of it all as well.

      DEEPAK MAINI: What have you-- do you have any idea of the internet speed?

      AUDIENCE: It's 100 megs.

      DEEPAK MAINI: 100 megs?

      MARK ABRAHAMS: Should be all right.

      DEEPAK MAINI: We are like them number 70 in the world when it comes to internet. We don't even get 100 megs anywhere in good offices.

      MARK ABRAHAMS: No, we've got 100 meg in ours. We've just upgraded, and we've put all our [INAUDIBLE] on C4R. So we run our entire company on it now. But we don't get too much in the way of the slowness.

      AUDIENCE: So the local cache file should be-- [INAUDIBLE] is not something I need to look for [INAUDIBLE]?

      DEEPAK MAINI: Get your local Autodesk representative or your partner involved. They can have a look at it. Yes, sir. So, guys, just I need to remind you, thanks for attending this class. Make sure you fill in the feedback form. Thank you. I thank you for attending.

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