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After the general session, you will have the opportunity to influence the future of your BIM 360 products with a visit to the Co:Construct Product Advisory session. No additional sign up needed. Co:Construct is your chance to meet the teams behind the BIM 360 platform, and your chance to speak directly to them about whatever is on your mind.
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JIM LYNCH: All right, good morning.
SARAH HODGES: Good morning.
JIM LYNCH: Good morning, and welcome to Autodesk University. We are thrilled to be here. We're thrilled to have all of you here. I think this is going to be a great session today, a great day of Connect & Construct, and a fantastic week of big news from Autodesk.
SARAH HODGES: Welcome, everybody. Before we get started, I just wanted to make one observation. So in construction, we look closely at who is coming to AU, and a little bit of healthy competition between the internal groups. But I have to share with all of you that this year, we have over 1,600 construction customers here with us at Autodesk University.
JIM LYNCH: Yeah.
SARAH HODGES: So welcome.
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JIM LYNCH: OK, so let's talk about the agenda to get things started, talk about what today looks like. So, of course, you're all in the general session. So you made it to this point, which is fantastic. We have a great lineup of speakers this morning. I think you're going to be really compelled and enjoy what they have to tell us.
This session this morning ends at 10:30. Then, our classes begin at 11:00 AM up on the fourth floor. Now, we noticed some of you actually didn't sign up for classes. So we really encourage you to look in your agenda, because we have the list of classes there, and just show up. You don't have to sign up. Just pick the classes you want to attend, show up, and take it all in.
I also want to tell you about the Co:Construct Zone. This is a new area that we're setting up on the fourth floor. It's open from 11:00 to 4:00 today, and really encourage you to go there. The BIM 360 product team will be manning the booth, manning Connect and the [? Co:Construct ?] Zone. You'll be able to go there, ask questions, get answers, give your input. We really want to hear your input about BIM 360. And of course, you'll get insight into what our plans are, what's coming next.
Then, tonight, we have a private event at the Tao Nightclub, which is fantastic. If you haven't been, I really encourage you to join us there tonight. It'll be a load of fun, so a lot of great stuff going on today. Before we introduce the first speaker, however, Sarah and I have a few announcements that we'd like to share.
First of all, as you know, we've continued to increase our investment in construction software over the past couple of decades. We think we've produced a compelling portfolio of solutions that really span the entire workflow of a construction project, really, from design through to operations. And while we think this is impressive, we know we haven't done enough in terms of digitizing the project.
So we're really excited about where we are taking BIM 360 as we move forward here. Now, we heard all of you loud and clear that having a single unified platform for AEC projects removes causes of uncertainty, things like data loss, information silos, and disconnected teams. We all know that these things lead to cost overruns, delays, and frustrations for project stakeholders.
So today, we're really pleased to announce the release of a preview of the next generation BIM 360 platform, connecting all of the applications, all the processes. And it's built on the Forge platform. So you're going to see docs. You're going to see a next-generation model coordination, next-generation project management software. So we're really excited. That's one reason to definitely go to the Co-Connect Zone, to learn more about what we're doing there. We'd love your input. And you're going to hear a lot more this week about the next-generation BIM 360 platform.
SARAH HODGES: All right. Thanks, Jim. So if that wasn't enough-- so the announcement of the next-generation BIM 360 platform, which we're inviting all of you to participate in as part of a public preview-- we also recognize that there's needs for you to share data across your project, and you work with a lot of applications. So I'm delighted to announce the arrival of the Connect & Construct Exchange.
We have over 50 partners already integrated through this program. And we're going to really help push forward the construction industry. Through Connect & Construct Exchange, we'll be looking at ways to transform some of your construction workflows, solving collaboration issues, operational challenges across pre-construction and site execution.
Through this program, we believe that construction customers like yourselves can centralize your pre-construction and construction management activities, you'll be able to eliminate the data silos that exist using point solutions, and you'll have access to a number of innovative solutions that support your full construction lifecycle. All right, so two big, big announcements there. And you'll start to hear more from us this week on them.
Now, all of our partners, as part of Connect & Construct Exchange, share the same vision as us, really around improving construction through the use of technology. But I want to take a moment and show you examples from two of our partners integrated with us through Connect & Construct Exchange. One is Smartvid.io, and the second one is Assemble Systems. And what you're going to see now are a few examples of how Assemble Systems and Smartvid.io are already transforming the way you and some of your clients work in construction.
So advances in machine learning and AI, like computer vision, they're changing the way the auto industry operates, like things like Mercedes and Tesla. They're using this to train algorithms to identify people and cars so that their autonomous cars can avoid accidents. Well, the Smartvid.io system uses the same technology to capture photos on construction sites.
It applies tags to objects it recognizes, such as workers or safety vests or hardhats. Construction managers can quickly search all of the photos, identifying and highlighting occurrences so they can monitor projects, take proactive steps to avoid potential problems even before they happen. And it also works on videos. You can see here a safety director walks out onto the job site. The system is analyzing their video in real time, it's locating all of the workers on the construction site, and it's looking for people that might not be wearing their PPE.
In this example, you see it spotted immediately someone that's not wearing a hard hat. It fell off. Automatically, it's analyzing all of this information, the massive amounts of photos and videos that are captured, which normally would take you hours to sift through and can't always be done just by humans. Smartvid.io is taking on this challenge. They're looking to help construction customers be more productive, help them have safer sites. It's a top priority for them.
The second example is Assemble Systems. Now, Assemble Systems-- here we go. Assemble Systems is unlocking more of the power of [? BIM. ?] It's extracting data and assembling it in a way that can be used to support pre-construction workflows. In this example that you see here, BIM 360 can automatically import information from Assemble in just a few clicks. Then, almost immediately, that data is ready and available for analysis.
What you're seeing here is a filtering by material. We can then look at how many cubic yards of concrete, as an example, are needed for each floor. We can take that data and integrate it immediately into our estimating workflow during pre-construction. We can also extend the model data directly into other workflows, like the submittal process, by attaching submittal packages, again, all within the BIM 360 Docs library. And we can use that information directly onto objects with just a few clicks.
Now, this kind of seamless integration not only makes it easier for project teams to use but avoids common problems of duplicating data across the systems. Everyone remains on the same page. So that's just a glimpse. And I encourage you all to please visit the exhibit hall area at AU this week, where many of these partners are here and ready to engage with you.
All right, so one of our primary reasons for making the announcements that we have today as well as the launch of our Connect & Construct Exchange is to help solve the workflow challenges that customers like yourselves are facing. But we recognize there's still a great deal of work left for us to do. And as the industry continues to evolve, it remains plagued by low margin-- excuse me, low margin and high risk. So one of the things that we are continuing to do is really invest in how the future of construction is being done and the role that technology can play. So here to talk about our investment in construction is Scott Herren, our senior vice president and CFO of Autodesk.
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SCOTT HERREN: Thank you. Thanks, Sarah, Jim. All right. So good morning. I've got a nice, full room. Thank you for that. You never know when you say good morning if you're going to just be, like, crickets out there or if someone's going to respond. So thank you. So I'm Scott Herren. I'm the CFO of Autodesk. And I do want to spend a minute talking about our commitment to the construction business and why that's important to us as a business and why it's important to me as the CFO of Autodesk.
You probably know, over the last several years, that Architecture, Engineering, and Construction, AEC, has been the biggest driver of our business. It's been the biggest revenue producer inside Autodesk. But if you peel that back, it's largely in the AE part of it and really hasn't been much in the C.
And what you've seen over the last couple of years is you've seen us invest much more heavily in the construction space. And you've seen the-- Jim just showed the BIM diagram with the BIM products we brought out-- result of some of that investment. I would tell you we're pivoting our investment much more heavily into construction going forward. And I'll talk about why.
I have to say before we go too far, though-- and Jim knows this. He's heard me tell the story. I do feel a connection to the people in the room, not just because you're customers, and I'm the finance guy. But I grew up as the son of a general contractor and spent-- commercial GC-- spent several summers in the Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is super hot in the summer, working on job sites, so one year in high school and three years when I was at college. And it got me back in school, by the way, every fall, doing that.
But it was a great experience. And through that, I worked with some terrific people on the job sites. So you can imagine, as a teen growing up, pretty impressionable at that point. I worked with some great people who had a significant impact on me-- in a good way, by the way-- had a significant impact on me and my own development.
But I learned a couple things through that process, through being on the job site, during the day, and then coming home in the evening and talking to my dad. And for a long time, actually, I thought I was going to be one of you. I thought I'd be sitting in that chair, being in the construction business, listening to someone up on stage talk about the construction industry.
Went off to school to become an engineer, decided when I got there to be an industrial engineer instead of a civil engineer, and somehow that led to, 30 years later-- I picked up a business degree in the interim and being a finance guy. I was really interested in the construction business, partly because I worked in it, and I had a sense of the people that are in the construction business, and partly because I think every kid at that age wants to do what their dad's doing, right? I wanted to be like my dad, in some ways.
Interestingly, by the way, when you were just showing the Assemble video, I saw the name of the general contracting firm my dad was a part of flash up in there. That's the first time I'd seen that. So great experience, but here's what I learned.
First of all, it's hard. The execution phase, working in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 7:30 in the morning, you're soaked with sweat. You're soaked with sweat till the end of the day. It's a hard business. Job sites are complex. There's a lot going on. There's a lot to coordinate. These are super smart people at every level trying to work their way through the execution phase.
And the second is, from talking to my dad at night about the business side of it itself, it's a tough business, right? It's a business that runs on really thin margins. I think you all know that. If you don't have the low bid, then a lot of times you don't get the job. And so that drives the margins down. And at the same time, you're dealing with a lot of risk.
Fortunately, I didn't work on that job site, or this job site, because that looks incredibly chaotic. But you can imagine the complexity that has to be managed on that job site, and it has to be managed with razor-thin margins. So that's the opportunity we see. As we look ahead at where the construction business is headed and specifically what Autodesk desk can do in the construction field, what I learned, both working on job sites and talking to my father, has shaped my thinking about the opportunity there.
And it's an opportunity to move for all of us, frankly, to move from what Sarah said in the opening, from low margins and pretty high risk to-- I won't say high margins-- higher margins and lower risk. I don't think technology itself is going to turn construction into a high-margin business, but better margins and lower risk. And I think that's the opportunity for all of us as we look ahead.
And that's exactly what the BIM product line is focused on, right? That's why we've built out the things that we've built out on BIM 360. And it's the bigger opportunity we see ahead. So you've seen us increase our investment over the last couple years. You can expect to see that investment increase pretty significantly again. We'll pivot more of our internal investment into the construction phase because it's a huge opportunity.
But we know it's not just an opportunity for us. In other words, we know we can't solve every problem that you've got through both the planning and the execution phase. We're pretty good on the upstream end in architecture and engineering. There's a lot to do in both the planning and the execution phase. And that's the opportunity to bring in the partners that Sarah just talked about. It's an ecosystem that we work with actively.
Frankly, through the Forge platform, it enables the seamless connection and the seamless handoffs between Autodesk products, by the way, also, but Autodesk to partners and vice versa, back and forth. So you'll hear more about Forge as the day goes on. You'll hear more about Forge over the next couple of days in some of the plenary sessions.
So Forge becomes a foundational piece for us. And it also helps play to what I think are one of the competitive advantages that we have over everyone else, which is, more and more, the merger, the confluence of both the construction-execution phase and our manufacturing business. And I think we're one of the few companies that has a lot of strength in both areas. So that's the opportunity.
Here's why it's important. By 2050-- and who knows? That's always made me smile. But let's assume they're directionally correct. By 2050, the estimate is there will be double the number of people living in urban areas that are living there today. And you can go, yeah, yeah, that's fine, 5 billion people in urban areas.
Think of it this way. It's taken us 2,000-- several thousand years, I guess more than 2,000 years, to build the cities, the urban centers for the populations they have today with the infrastructure and the buildings that are there. We're going to double that again in a little more than 30 years, all right? That's the challenge. That's an enormous challenge. And frankly, that challenge is going to be met by you, by the people in this room.
And so as you think about what that takes to not only build out the buildings but to do it in a sustainable way-- because the sustainability is not going to be a feel-good thing. It's not going to be optional. We won't be able to meet the infrastructure needs of a doubling of the urban cities without doing it in a sustainable way. So building that out, doubling the capacity that we have in urban areas is a gigantic challenge and a great opportunity, frankly, for everyone in the room.
But the second main point-- and Dominic will peel these back a little bit more after me. The second big point is you have to do it profitably. If you can't make a profitable business out of this-- and like I said, it's a tough business. It's a complicated business. If you can't do it profitably, it's not going to happen. And so I think that's the opportunity that we see.
We think technology can help. We think the technology that are required to do that is either available or can be made available very quickly. We think this industry is on the cusp of adopting that technology much more robustly than it's been done in the past. And I think everyone in here will be a part of that.
That's one of the things that I think drives the statistic that Sarah just gave of 1,600 construction services people at the event. It's more, interestingly, than the number of people we have on the architecture side. If you had said this two years ago, I think people would have thought you were crazy, right? That's what's driving it. We're on the cusp of adoption. And we think that's a great opportunity for Autodesk, and it's a great opportunity for you.
So we are all in on construction. You heard Andrew Anagnost, our CEO. If you listened to our last earnings call, you heard him say this exact phrase. We're all in. We are pivoting investment internally to invest more heavily in this space. And that's the opportunity for all of us to go off and drive that in a profitable way.
So I want to thank you for being here. I want to thank everyone for getting into this room by 8:00 AM in Las Vegas, which I don't think has ever happened, that you collected a crowd this big at that early in the morning. And with that, I'll hand it back off to Sarah.
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SARAH HODGES: Thank you. Thank you, Scott. So Scott outlined a little bit about his personal history, which I think is really exciting and good for you to hear, too. And he also talked a little bit about some of the challenges the industry is facing. So our next speaker is Dominic Thasarathar. He's from our Thought Leadership and Strategy team here at Autodesk.
He has a steep construction background, holding many senior positions at a number of firms, including he was a former CIO at CH2M Hill where he worked on the Olympics Project in London. He's also worked at Bechtel and [INAUDIBLE] just to name a few. And he's now going to ping for you the vision that we have around how Autodesk tries to solve some of these challenges that we've outlined in the industry for you. So please join me in welcoming Dominic to the stage.
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DOMINIC THASARATHAR: So good morning, and thank you for taking the time to join us for what I hope, what I know will be an insightful and interesting day. So I have 15 short minutes to talk to you about the future of the construction industry. So I'll perhaps start with a question that I pose to your peers as I bump around the world. Why is it important to think about the future of your industry?
And the classic response I get back is, because our industry is important. And it's pretty hard to argue with these kinds of numbers, 10% to 12% of global GDP. Your industry employs around 12% to 15% of the world's workforce and is an incredible stimulant for economic activity. Every $1 spent with you delivers $3.21 of GDP growth here in North America, with similar numbers around the world. So your industry is important.
But it's important for another reason as well, because your industry is the progenitor to every other industry. Without the good work that all of you in this room do, there would be no homes for us to live in. There would be no offices for us to work in. There would be no transportation networks to get us from A to B. There would be no industrial facilities to power our economies. And there would be no utility networks to light and heat our built environment.
And that role that you have in underwriting so much human endeavor is only going to get more important over the coming years. If we look out over the next 20 to 30 years, I could argue everything we need to know about the future of your industry is in these two charts. Population growth, urbanization, economic expansion, are underwriting an insatiable demand for more, more buildings, more infrastructure.
By 2020, China will have had to install 31,000 miles of high-speed rail network. By 2030, India needs to build enough homes to house an additional 165 million new urban dwellers. By 2035, the world needs an additional 4,400 gigawatts of power-generating capacity to meet growing demand for electricity. Collectively, that is pushing up global output for construction to around $17 trillion by 2030. That's fantastic news for everybody in this room. There's more work to go around.
The trouble is, we know that it's not going to be more of the same. When I talk with your peers around the world, I ask them what's keeping them up at night when they think about the future of their company and the markets in which they'll be competing. And there's a lot of things, as you can imagine. But they seem to graduate back to these four key trends, sustainability, growth, where the money is going to come from, and the fact that everything is just getting more complex.
Let's talk about sustainability. You don't need me to repeat the numbers. You already know them. Today, our built environment places too much strain on our natural environment. And put that in context of that future pipeline of work. These numbers are simply unsustainable. We're all familiar with COP 21, the climate change target of significantly below 2 degrees centigrade by the middle of the century.
Things have to change. And you are excelling at tackling that issue. Pat yourselves on the back for the great work you have done in helping to deliver net zero carbon, net zero energy new buildings and new infrastructure. But what about the existing built environment? And what about the job site? Just by switching from Diesel powered to electric power plant, you could slash energy consumption at the job site by over 70%.
Let's talk about growth. There's a lot more growth coming, over $17 trillion. But where that growth is happening is quite different. But 2030, over 6 in every 10 construction dollars are going to be spent in what are considered today's emerging nations. What does that mean for where you're going to be competing for work and with whom?
Looking back over the last 10 years, there has been a huge uptick in the level of construction exports. People are taking their skills, and they are competing overseas. Between 2005 in 2015, in real terms, construction exports jumped by over 125%. And one in two of you is thinking about, how can we seek out a new geography? That could be the city down the road. It could be a completely different continent. How are you going to compete against that?
Let's talk about the most important thing, money. Design is easy. Design is cheap. Building something takes a lot of money, millions, tens, hundreds, billions of dollars. If that future pipeline of work is to be anything other than an aspiration, you need to help your clients to unlock the funding to flow into those projects. But we know that a large majority of those projects are government related.
Think about governments' traditional role of supplying the social and economic infrastructure for their citizens. And then take a look at this chart. Governments can no longer afford to do that, which means the money has to come from the private sector, public-private partnerships.
You will increasingly be tasked in solving those really complex challenges of, how do you help investors matchmake on their risk appetite with the risk profile of the projects that are seeking funding? How do you help step change downwards, the construction risk of projects, so that funds will flow into them? And how do you sweat the existing built environment, the $200-plus trillion worth of assets that already exist?
Let's talk about complexity. This is, of course, a very famous set of statistics from the McKinsey report. 600 cities today house a little over a fifth of the world's population yet account for 60% of global GDP. Our cities are incredibly important. This is the century of the city. They're also very delicate ecosystems. When you're putting down projects into these incredibly complex environments, how can you make sure that you're ensuring that that city remains socially inclusive, environmentally sustainable, economically viable? Projects are getting more difficult.
So how ready is the construction industry for that challenge of tomorrow? Well, let's think about the metrics of today. Your industry, as Scott mentioned, is a difficult one in which to make a corporate living. You don't need me to tell you that. You can just take a look at your annual reports. Let's think about productivity. Productivity here in the US over the last 50 years has declined by 19%, in real terms, compared to non-farm productivity generally across the economy, which has soared over the last 50 years by 153%.
Let's talk about predictability, custom program. Anybody that's achieving more than 50% is probably doing pretty well. Let's talk about cyclicality. Your industry is the most cyclical, so tightly coupled with the economic cycle. After the 2008 downturn here in the US, you lost 2.3 million construction workers. Now times are better. You know you can't get skilled workers [? if you ?] [? have no ?] money. In the UK, where I'm from, we lost 20% of our supply chain capacity. This is a difficult industry to make a living in.
Let's think about the other issues you have. You're expected to deliver change. Your balance sheets are quite likely capitalized. You frequently deal with clients who ask for innovation but expect you to prove it 20 times over before they'll actually sign on the dotted line with you. And this is perhaps the only industry I'm aware of where a company will agree to do work for less than cost.
They will suicide bid just to keep the cash flow coming in because, of course, your industry is underwritten so strongly by the use of trade credit. And that's great in the good times when you can tap into that huge pipeline of work. But it hurts like hell, doesn't it, in the bad times? You have to keep that money coming in to keep yourself afloat.
Finally, let's talk about collaboration. Collaboration is a funny thing, isn't it? Everybody talks about it. Everybody agrees it's something we should all do. But you all know the challenges of how you get collaboration to happen around [? that ?] asset lifecycle. I'd ask you to compare and contrast these two charts, which is from a report a couple of years ago by KPMG, asking clients, what do you see as the outlook for collaboration with your contracted partners?
82% expected more collaboration over the next five years. Fantastic. But look at the level of trust. Only 31% had a high degree of trust. The industry, its clients, all of the stakeholders still have a long way to go before we can tackle this issue of collaboration.
So the question is, can technology help you square the circle? Can it help you solve the issues you have today and prepare for tomorrow? You are an incredibly important inflection point in your industry. Never before have you had access to such a surfeit of technological trends, all of which have the capacity to significantly change one or more aspects of how you deliver business.
Collectively, we're seeing them give rise to three major disruptions. The first is it's changing the way in which you design. This type of stuff needs no introduction to you, but what it means is the physical and the digital worlds are colliding. It's getting far easier to suck the real world into a silicon environment, to play with your designs via things like gaming engines, and to push those designs out via AR and VR, collision of the digital and physical.
But perhaps even more importantly is the way in which design tools are fundamentally shifting, moving from being instructive tools where we have to tell the tool to do something to harnessing that huge amount of computing power in the cloud, smart algorithms to tap into things like generative design, to have the tool help us, where we can actually focus far more on the end outcome.
Second disruption, all those technology trends are changing how we actually build. At last, your industry can tap into huge amounts of structured data gathered off all those projects and start applying things like machine learning to help you better plan your delivery at the job site. And physical delivery is, of course, also changing. Forget about yesterday's robots. What about robots you could interact with, or what about robots that you can plug into machine learning and can actually think for themselves and work out problems and build?
And what about the rise of microfactories? For the last 30, 40-- arguably longer-- years, your industry has managed to take advantage of reduced trade barriers, reduce shipping costs to develop incredibly globally extended supply chains, to get all the bits and pieces that you need to deliver your projects. But what if you could fabricate those components at facilities like this very close to your job sites?
Yes, it reduces carbon. Yes, it reduces energy. But it also creates the opportunity for a new era of localism, where the people involved in, perhaps, using the assets that you're building are also working on actually creating the components that go into them.
The final, the third trend that we're seeing is this changing nature of how we operate our built assets. We're all familiar with the smart home, increasingly becoming familiar with the smart highway. What's the effect of this going to be? Well, certainly, we're going to get far more efficient at operating and maintaining facilities. But that goes far beyond just making sure that things are replaced or that predictive maintenance happens.
It's going to allow repurposing of assets on the fly, the 24-hour building, adding value in a way that, traditionally, you could not have done. You think about when you built a building, the amount of value was fixed. It was finite based on the fabric of that building and the systems you put in at the time of construction. Now you can repurpose those assets. You can unlock new ways to add value and new business models.
What about at the larger scale, the city scale? As all of these things start to get smarter and get connected, everything from pieces of rotating equipment to sensors in buildings, and we start to get adept at throwing huge amounts of cloud-computing power at that data, what might we learn? Well, I think we're going to be able to close the gap between how much built asset stock we need to build and what we actually need to build because we should be able to get far better at understanding how we're utilizing that built environment and therefore predict what future needs should be, building just enough.
And there's another aspect to this as well, the role of social computing. You all shop on Amazon and other online shopping portals. And invariably, most of you also put a star rating against the product that you buy. Why should it be any different for the built assets that we're involved with? I'm working in a building. I don't like this building. This is how I feel about it. I'm going to give it this star rating. Increasingly, the end users of your assets are going to be voting via social media on the quality of life, the quality of usage of those assets.
Collectively, we're seeing those three disruptions in how things are built, designed, built, and operated open up a new era for you. We, of course, call it the era of connection, hopefully for obvious reasons, because it's putting into your hands some pretty fantastic capabilities, the ability to seamlessly connect teams together, connect insights, outcomes, delivery, assets, and perhaps most importantly, capital.
We think the net of this is you're going to see a step change in your industry for those of you that jump on board and take advantage of those connected capabilities, delivering a margin that is both appropriate and predictable, delivering a greater level of resilience, enabling you to ride out the peaks and troughs of the economic cycle, and allowing you to tap into that huge pipeline of growth over the next 20 years, that generational opportunity.
If you would like to know more, you can read the booklet-- I believe it was handed out-- or, better still, jump onto our website, where there are plenty of good examples about how we're looking at moving forward with this vision. And later today, you'll see plenty of examples from customers in the classes of how we're taking that forward. Thank you very much for your time.
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JIM LYNCH: Thank you, Dominic. [INAUDIBLE]. All right, thank you. Thank you, Dominic. Well, it's clear the opportunity for all of us is extremely compelling, and it's real. So hopefully, over the next couple of days you're going to learn a lot about our technology that we believe can play an important role in helping to achieve and pursue some of these opportunities.
So I want to introduce the next speaker. Our next speaker is a gentleman by the name of Michael Collins. Michael was a former bricklayer. And at one point, he actually owned a construction company. Now he's the director of education at a company called Build Change.
I had an opportunity to talk to Michael last night at dinner. And he's got a really compelling story. The work that his team is doing is extremely important. Build Change designs disaster-resistant houses and schools in emerging nations and helps train engineers, builders, architects, et cetera to use the technology to drive these outcomes. So without further ado, please welcome Michael Collins to the stage. Thank you.
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MICHAEL COLLINS: Hi, guys. Thank you very much, Jim, for the introduction. It's great to be here with so many colleagues from the construction industry. I grew up in the construction industry. I started working when I was 14. This is the only photo that I have of back in the day. I wasn't 14. I must've been 18 or 19 here. And I wasn't actually doing anything. I was just lying in a sand pit, right? Please don't take it to be representative of what I do every day.
I worked for about 3 and 1/2 years as a laborer. And then, as Jim mentioned, I started working as a bricklayer. And then I had the opportunity to specialize a bit more in stone masonry. I grew up on the northeast coast of Spain, where there were lots of stone and wooden houses. In fact, at the age of 23, I had the opportunity to open up a small construction company specializing in the historical restoration of buildings.
Now, Spain was a cheap place to live in at the time. There were a lot of European people who would buy old farmhouses that I would restore that they would then use as second residences. So business was very good, but I couldn't really shake off the feeling of being able to do something better with the skills that I had. So I started looking around and had the opportunity, or saw this opportunity to work with what, at the time, was a small organization called Build Change, who were looking for somebody with practical skills to be able to manage their response after a disaster in Indonesia in 2009.
This was an earthquake that damaged around 200,000 homes. So, as Jim mentioned, Build Change's mission was to reduce the deaths, injuries, and economic losses caused by housing and school collapse in earthquakes and typhoons in emerging nations. And we say emerging nations because, despite the recent spate of disastrous events here in the US, 9 out of 10 deaths by natural disaster happen in developing countries. And that's for many reasons, but most, if not all, are related to construction practice.
Earthquakes and hurricanes don't kill people. Poorly built buildings do. Governments in developing countries generally lack the capacity to be able to enforce construction codes. Homeowners lack the means to be able to employ formal companies and employ unformal or untrained builders. And the quality of materials is extremely low. Now, worse still, in environments such as this, many people rebuild in the same vulnerable way that they built before the earthquake. So the opportunity to be able to actually reduce risk is lost.
So while I was there, I had the chance to be able to work with a wonderful team providing technical assistance for homeowners rebuilding their homes, provide on-the-job training for builders working on them, partnering with vocational training authorities to be able to train the next generation of builders, and even opening up a bed of brickmaking program that's ongoing to this day to be able to improve the quality of construction materials.
And after a couple of years, I felt like my position there was no longer key. So I let Build Change know that I was going to be making a move. And at the time, we'd just started working in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake there, doing very much the same kind of similar activities. And they said, hey, listen, can you please go over to Haiti just for a week and share any lessons learned that you may have accumulated during your time in Indonesia?
So for those of you who may not be from the humanitarian business, when we say lessons learned, that's code for stuff that went really wrong, right? So I spent a week in Haiti working with a team that turned into two that turned into three. I ended up living in Haiti or working in Haiti for 3 and 1/2 years. And that's because our program there greatly expanded. Haiti was the first place that we were able to do seismic retrofitting. So when I say seismic retrofitting, basic strengthening of buildings that had been damaged in the earthquake but also houses that hadn't been damaged but may be vulnerable.
So we did over 1,200 retrofits and about 400 new builds. We opened up a training center that's still running, providing formal qualification for builders and apprentices. We started retrofitting schools, which is something we do in all of the countries where we work now. So I'd actually like to show you guys a video just to provide you a bit more context.
OK, so this is drone footage from one of our recently completed projects in Haiti. It included about 250 retrofits and about a quarter mile of retaining walls. It was part of a larger program that included sanitation, a widening of pathways, and helping a lot of the homeowners that lived in the ravines to be able to move out into safer areas.
Right here, in the middle, you can see one of the two schools that we were able to retrofit. And this particular shot is very interesting because you can really see to the extent in which people build down the ravines. You'll see right here on the right-hand side. Now, that's a significant challenge to be able to find retrofit solutions for these houses. Some of them can be retrofitted. Some of them cannot, and homeowners need to be relocated.
Now, here, you can see the widening of the pathways done by one of our partners. And all of the houses that you guys see with the colored roofs and some of the ones with the newer silver roofs will be Build Change retrofits. Now, that's not because we asked people to paint their roofs. It's simply because that's the color that the sheets, the CGI sheets were produced at that time.
You guys will probably also see that there were a lot of vertical expansions. In other words, people have added a lot of new second floors. And that's because we and our partners had the opportunity to provide retrofit subsidies for the first floor but also wanted to make sure that we could provide technical assistance for homeowners that wanted to, in the future, increase-- sorry, expand their house upwards. So providing they had their own funds, we could provide them with the technical assistance so that, basically, people wouldn't build an unsafe second story on top of a safe first story.
Now, all of the techniques that we used-- these are houses, you know? I mean, we didn't use any small houses, for that matter. We didn't use special pistons or bolts or any special techniques, very simple stuff, structural plaster, adding a ring beam, reinforcing the windows, making sure the roof is properly tied down to the ring beam. And here, you can see downtown [INAUDIBLE] in the background and the creation of a public space that was also done as part of the program.
So right now, I have the luxury of being able to work with Build Change on a global level. We are working in Haiti, in Indonesia, in Philippines, Colombia, Guatemala, and Nepal. And one of the largest challenges that we currently have is to be able to cost-efficiently scale what we are doing. Just to provide you an example, in the time it took us to retrofit the 1,200 houses in Haiti, thousands of houses, unsafe houses were built in informal neighborhoods on the outskirts of cities in South America. Hundreds of thousands of houses already exist that need to be retrofitted.
So this is a technology conference, so I'd love to be able to go over a couple of technological aspects that are helping us to be able to reach that scale and reduce the cost of our technical assistance. Where we're most advanced, if you will, is in Nepal after our response in 2015. And then we're using drone technology to be able to provide updated aerial information about damaged areas so we don't have to rely on Google Maps from 2009. But it's also a really good tool to be able to work with community leaders to be able to plan projects.
We use drone-- sorry, drones and Autodesk software to be able to create topographical maps that allow us to provide better recommendations as to where homeowners should or should not be building. And we also use it as a construction supervision tool to be able to see the progress of construction activities over time. It's actually a very convenient donor-reporting tool as well because donors can very much see the visual impact that we are having.
We're using 360 cameras and Autodesk software to be able to create virtual reality experiences as an educational tool to share with homeowners and government officials who can walk into a damaged home and to be able to see all of the retrofit components being incorporated. Now, let's play another video. I'm just going to play it in the background as I speak.
So Nepal's interesting in the sense that it was a rural disaster, and a lot of the rural houses in Nepal are very similar. They're, for the most part, square or rectangular. They've got well-aligned windows, thick walls, two to three stories, floors that act as a diaphragm. That's allowed us to be able to develop a type design, in other words a very simple set of actions to take to be able to make your house safe that's the same for all of these houses with these similar characteristics.
So this has allowed us to be able to use [? tablet ?] technology to make very simple measurements in the field that feed into Revit and a Dynamo script that performs earthquake-- sorry, engineering checks, produces a 3D model of the house as it is, produces a 3D model of the retrofit that's layered on top of that. And then that spits out plans in a bill of quantities. Now, this has really helped us in terms of scale and cost efficiency because we've gone from a situation in which one engineer could do two or three designs in a week to one engineer being able to spit out eight designs in a single day.
So this is one of the retrofits. In fact, it was the first retrofit we ever did in Nepal. You can't see a lot because most of it has been recovered with plaster. You can see some of the strong backs on the inside of the house here. Now, despite the fact that we talk about scale and technology, it's easy to forget the human impact that these kind of projects have.
In fact, this house belonged to [? Iswari ?] [? Magi ?] and her family. The earthquake hit. Their house was damaged, cracked. It collapsed a lot of other houses in the village. And they were too afraid to go back into their house. So they lived through winter in a tent outside. She had access to a government subsidy for reconstruction, but if she wanted to rebuild a new house, she would only ever be able to build a house that was about a quarter of the size of the house that she currently had.
So [? Iswari ?] was able to work with Build Change, and we were able to work with her, in retrofitting her home so that she could keep all of her existing space. And her family was able to move in before the harvest and the next monsoon. Better still, our relationship with [? Iswari ?] convinced another 18 homeowners in that particular village to retrofit their homes as well.
So in closing, over the past 12 years, we've been able to train 30,000 people who have gone on to build 50,000 safer homes. Risk Management Solutions-- that's a catastrophe modeling company-- recently did a study in the five neighborhoods where Build Change works in Bogota. And their results were that if all of those houses were retrofitted in those neighborhoods, we'd be able to save 110,000 lives and over $4 billion of economic losses, reduce economic losses by over $4 billion.
Now, of course, there are significant challenges to be able to do a retrofit program in this particular kind of context, estimated anywhere between $500 million and $800 million. But there are also tremendous amount of opportunities, opportunities to be able to open up to new markets, opportunities to be able to develop and test new products and new technological solutions, opportunities to be able to close the protection gap, above all, opportunities to be able to have a positive impact on people's lives.
So Build Change is seeking partners to be able to meet these challenges and to be able to make the best of the future opportunities. A lot of the early initiatives that we do, a lot of the work that you see is self sponsored. So we're distinctly interested in meeting with people who may work in CSR, or if your company has a foundation, we would love to be able to partner with you to be able to continue having an impact in the developing world.
Please don't hesitate to contact me directly after this show, and if not, through these contact details here. also have technological guru here who's heavily involved in the technical components of what we do. So if you'd like to learn more, please feel free to contact him. He's going to be participating in multiple sessions. Thank you very much.
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SARAH HODGES: That's great. Thank you.
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Wow. Michael, thank you. I think that was wonderful and extremely, extremely inspiring. Now we're going to shift a little bit, and we're going to talk a little bit about how do you take advantage of all the technology that's evolving out in the construction industry. When Scott was up here, he spoke a lot about Autodesk's investment in construction from a technology perspective. But we recognize also there's a ecosystem of technology out there, new solutions or apps for that appearing all the time.
So many of you have to make decisions on behalf of your company about what technology to select and for what reasons. And it can be complicated and overwhelming. So our next speaker is going to join us, David Epps. He's director of construction technology at Winter Construction. And he's going to share with you some of the best practices that his company has deployed in terms of choosing the right technology strategy and the right technology solutions to do their work. So please welcome David to the stage.
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DAVID EPPS: [INAUDIBLE]. Morning. I see we got the same guy. You ever have one of those days where you wake up, and you're on the way to work, and you get there, and you have 15 tweets, emails, text messages, LinkedIn profiles, voicemails describing all the latest and greatest technology that's come out since the day before and why you have to buy it, how it's going to change your world?
That's literally my world every single day. But it's incredibly exciting, but it's also really overwhelming at times because you feel like you're getting hit from every side all the time. Coming to conferences like this only compounds that when you get to see all the different great things that are happening out there. So it's exciting, but it's very overwhelming.
The AEC industry is evolving. And as industry professionals that work in that industry, we have to be evolved with it. 15 years ago, I had a laptop, a copy of AutoCAD, and a copy of SketchUp. That was it. That's how I got started in my 3D world. Now my CEO comes to my office and says that it looks like, jokingly, the holodeck on the Starship Enterprise because I have so many screens and computers and scanners and VR situations and all these pieces of software that I have to figure out how to connect and make work together.
I spent most of my career working at a larger firm developing a BIM department and recently transitioned to Winter Construction to do the same. And I found that, to my surprise, the size of the company, the size of the projects are largely irrelevant. You run into the same challenges and the same issues that all stem from things like inefficiency, waste factors that are incredibly large in the construction industry, poor planning, and lack of communication between stakeholders, and ultimately, a very reactive mindset to how to solve problems.
And so I'm trying to find ways to use technology, use all these tools that are available to us to be more proactive in solving these issues, which all sounds great, right? Whose first day at AU is it here? First time, couple of you? It's going to be overwhelming for you. My suggestion is make a plan, because you're going to go out in those boots and see all these shiny toys that you want to have, right? Don't do that.
Make a plan. Figure out what business you want to go to, what people you want to talk to, what people you want to network with. Do not try to go buy everything at once without having a plan in place. It will ultimately fail. Go online. Research things. Get trial solutions. Figure out how to implement them. Pilot them on the projects that makes sense.
Find teams that actually want to work with you. Don't try and force feed it down people's throats, because that's when it's going to be successful, and those quick wins are really going to make it work out. You don't have the internal resources to do this? There are a lot of service providers out there that provide a lot of these tools and services. Do that for a while. Learn from them. And then, if it makes sense fiscally, bring it in-house.
So somebody always holds the purse strings, right? What you don't want to do is come back from AU and say, Boss, I found this drone. It holds a laser scanner. It's fantastic. Now I need $20,000. That's not a business case. And he's going to say no. I've tried it. Trust me.
What you want to do is speak their terms, figure out the language that they understand so they understand that this is not just an overhead expense. A lot of what we do comes out as overhead, right? We're not actually building the buildings. We're supporting the teams building the buildings. So you have to help demonstrate the value that all these tools are going to provide and offset the costs later on.
There's a lot of technology you're going to see here. But some of the ways that I've found that have benefited our company over the years, virtual reality, augmented reality-- these are all hot buttons you're going to hear right now-- drones, laser scanning. I want to talk about a couple of the ways that I've found developing the business cases actually worked out well for me.
First one is virtual reality, very similar to a virtual fly-through. But instead of you having to watch where I'm flying you, I can immerse you in this environment, and you can look however you want. In this case, we were actually working with a client, ran through a whole clash detection and coordination process but actually had a duct run that was slightly in front of that "inspire" word.
We would not have realized that during coordination and clash detection because it wasn't really a clash. But we put the VR goggles on him, and the first thing he said was, I can't see that word in the wall anymore. So we were able to proactively approach redesign of this before it actually got built, and he walks out there and realizes, that's not what I want. Tear it down. Do it over again. It allows us to be proactive in that way.
And this is a really cheap way of doing it. If you don't have $500,000 to buy an Oculus Rift or an HTC Vive, there are $50 solutions you can put a phone in and get an app and give them an idea of what that virtual reality experience looks like. You don't have to go and buy the most expensive thing day one. Figure out how to dip your toes in the water and see how it works out, and then invest properly later.
Drones are a big one. I was actually flying on a project, just taking aerial photography, trying to get a weekly update for this project. The superintendent comes over to me and says, can you do anything else with that thing? My nerd side came out and said, yeah, I can make a photogrammetry model of your entire site. He says, yeah, I don't know what that means, but can you tell me which dirt's over there? So I made my own mistake, right? I didn't speak the terms that he understood.
But within 30 minutes, I'd taken 80 pictures of this thing and processed up in our software to figure out how much quantity that was. And it blew his mind. He said it would've taken them hours to bring a surveyor out and do the exact same thing. So now he was a believer. He then called me back. He said, hey, drone guy-- I've been called worse.
He said, hey, drone guy, can you come and take this thing and actually fly this on a project we've already built? We have a leak. We can't figure out where it is. I could run a scaffold. I could rent all this stuff and hire somebody to come out here and do it and manage it. It's going to take me hours. And it's a live hotel, so we're going to be obstructing guests.
Can you fire that thing up there and see if you can help me find this? Sure enough, within 30 minutes, we'd found the crack. We'd solved the problem. And now he wasn't just a believer. He was a proponent. That's what you really have to find, is internal proponents besides yourself selling this technology. Figure out the people that are going to buy into it and sell it for you.
Laser scanning you've undoubtedly heard plenty of and how great is at collecting lots and large amounts of data. I found a lot of value doing construction verification where you take it one step further, past clash detection, and really start to understand, are these folks putting the work in place the way we've all agreed upon during coordination? More importantly, are they not, and where?
A great example of this, probably one of my favorite ones, is a company-- our project team did not actually want constructive verification because I did a poor job of selling it. And so we denied it completely. But they did have a problem where they had a proximity issue to power lines adjacent to a project. So they said, well, how do we figure this out?
I said, why don't we scan it? In the back of my mind, I have alternative motives for this. But I said, let's scan it. Let's take a look at it and see how close the final design is going to be to these power lines, knowing full well that I was also going to also gather all the structural components that were already put in place. So we solved their problem. It was actually six inches into the designs, so they actually redesigned some things. So that solved their first one.
But secondly, I was able to overlay it with our coordination model. Sure enough, we didn't have kickers installed on our model. So we'd missed those in our coordination process, which happens, right? So this duct line, which was going to be installed in a few weeks, would have become a problem had we not found this this way. We were able to proactively approach it. It didn't solve the problem.
But it showed us the problem early enough to where we could react to it proactively and effectively come up with a solution with the design team so there wasn't last time and lost money for the owner. This created a whole team full of proponents for me. They asked me to come back and rescan that area and come back and rescan three more times throughout the rest of the project. So again, find these fast wins as fast as you can to figure out how to use these guys to show the rest of the company what you're capable of.
Laser scanning and augmented reality, so similar concept, but it's a different vantage point. You can do this with ReCap, iPads, HoloLens, really just depends on how you want to do it. But what this allows you to do-- in this case, we're scanning [INAUDIBLE] every single one of our slabs so we can justify locations of formwork, embeds, stub-ups, I mean, all sorts of any key information. And it also gives us [? as-built ?] information for turnover later on.
But this allows us to really dive in and view the space and understand where it's wrong. So again, you should never see a jackhammer on a live construction site, like a new construction site, because that means you did something wrong, and you're messed up, right? This allows us to proactively, before we cover it up with concrete, figure out if it makes sense to push off the [? pour, ?] see if it makes sense to adjust this stuff before we cover it up and have to ship it out later.
I talked about photogrammetry. The beauty of a drone is it can gather a lot of data from a lot of space all really quickly, but it's not quite as accurate as the laser scan. So when we supplement those together, we now have the overall expanse of the site. So we can use that for typography studies. We can use it for site logistics planning. We can do it for quantification.
But then we can supplement it with these laser scans and really dive in and understand, in this case, how we're going tie into the building. The laser scan data itself was pretty limited, but it was pretty accurate. So you combine that with the overall expanse of the drone information, and you really get something that's useful for the entire team.
Similar concept, augmented reality plus drones. In this case, this was during the programming phase of a project, where you're able to work with a design team and work with the owner to help them understand what their design was going to look like, what the cost implications were for that, and as the design evolved, show them whatever vantage point we wanted. In this case, this was a drone. But this concept of being able to augment their design and reality really helps them understand what that looks like.
So what is the magic formula? There isn't one. You have to figure out what that formula is for your specific firm, just like I did. Sit down with your teams. Understand the challenges that you have to work with. Figure out what really makes these guys tick, what keeps them up at night. And find those challenges. And then and only then figure out what you want to buy to support that.
Do not buy the tool first and try and figure out how to force it into your system, your workflow. It's ultimately going to fail. Don't overwhelm, one, yourself. You're going to walk out of here with 50 new things that you want. Try and fine-tune that down in some things that really make sense. Go back and try and implement those the way we talked about pilot projects and such.
And don't overwhelm your teams, because if you come back and try and throw all these things at them, they're just going to put their hands up and say, I can't do all this. I have a day job to work with. Figure out how to speak their language. And find those quick wins, because when you find those quick wins, you're ultimately going to get proponents that are going to sell this stuff for you.
And if you're patient-- I love this quote about persistence. If you're persistent with these guys, you're not going to be 100% successful every day, but eventually, you will find these proponents that will sell this work for you, and your biggest problem will be trying to keep up with all the support that they need. And ultimately, all of your projects will be successful. Thank you for the time.
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JIM LYNCH: Thank you. Nice job. All right, great. Thank you, David. That's some great insight into what you're doing at Winter Construction. So our next speaker is Richard Holbrook. Richard is the director of operations at Layton Construction. And Richard is responsible for driving their machine learning efforts and using data to predict issues on the job site.
So today, actually, Layton is at the forefront of using machine learning and data analytics to predict potential risks, specifically as they relate to quality and safety. So Richard's going to come up and talk a little bit about how they're using machine learning and data analytics to do some of these things. So listen closely. I think you'll hear some great ideas that perhaps you can go back and implement at your company. So with that, thank you, Richard.
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RICHARD HOLBROOK: Thank you, Jim. Boy, I look up at that photo there, and I'm wondering, who's the old man coming up to the stage? Here I am, folks. What if you could make decisions in your line of work that would affect the outcome of something that you do tomorrow? Would you be willing to find out how you could do that, what you would do to be able to affect the outcome tomorrow?
I'm talking about decisions that might save us time. Heaven knows we all could use a little bit more time. There's never enough in the day to accomplish what we need to get done, is there? How about decisions that would help us make and save a little bit of money? Do we all have dreams about things that we would like to do with a little bit more time and money, or are we so bogged down with work that we can't get to it?
How about decisions that would help you or your project become top of class in your organization, that other project teams within your organization would look to as a great example of, I want that, I need to be there, or how about decisions that would set you apart from your competition, decisions that owners and designers and architects would clearly see that your organization is where they want to go to do business?
How about decisions that will help keep you successful in business? We know that there have been a lot of companies that have closed over the past several years, a lot of new ones to come in their place. But sustainability is something we all need. So if you could make decisions that would keep you in business, would you want to do it?
We oftentimes are busy trying to take care of all the day-to-day operations on our projects that we never have enough time to complete it all. Every time we try to get something done, someone is pulling us to another task or another issue, another problem that they want our attention to help solve. And we just can never get it done. We fall into that mode of, oh my gosh, just leave me alone. I need to get this job done.
We think that we're making progress. We think we've taken a step forward, when in reality, we find ourselves taking two steps back. And we fall into that game of catch-up. How can I get done today what I was scheduled to get done today? We make shots, potentially, that we maybe shouldn't have taken, only to find out that we fall way behind, and we fail. We can't ever quite catch up.
Let's shift gears for a minute-- excuse me. We find that we come to this obstacle or this road closure sign that makes us change what we had planned on doing that day. And again, we never catch up. So let's shift gears for just a little bit. What would you do, or what if you could make an opportunity to save a life or save a person from having a safety incident?
Do we even recognize what those issues are? Do we realize that on our job sites, that there are things that are unsafe where people could get hurt, potentially lose their life? In the construction industry, in the years past, we've almost had the feeling that accidents happen. It's a part of our life. It's a tough environment. People are going to get hurt.
We want to do something about it, but we're often late. The accident happens. And I'm sure there are many in this room that have witnessed fatal accidents on your projects or life-altering accidents. It'll never leave your mind. Well, how do we do it? How are we able to make those types of decisions? I don't have a crystal ball. Do any of you? I don't think so.
But you know what? I've got a pretty good looking-glass perspective of the future and how I can learn to make decisions based on some analytics and some information that I can do at the click of a finger. What is it, you might ask? It's technology. It's machine learning. It's data analytics. It's having the computer be able to take all these data points and put them in an organized fashion that we can see what we need to do in a proactive sense.
This is how a lot of us have tried to figure something out. We go back to our files. We go back and we search through stacks and stacks of paper to see if we can figure out what went wrong. Of course, it's way too late at that point. So we need to be able to utilize the tools that we have at our fingertips to do what we do best. And how do you do that? Simple.
Out on the job site, you're looking and you're observing all day long. One minor change, document. Document what you see, what you observe. How do you document it? Well, you do it with the tools that we have at our hands. BIM 360 Field, for example, has a series of checklists, issues, observation reports, even photographs. The computer can take information from all these data points and put them in a perspective that we can understand.
Use your team. This isn't just you. It's collaborative. Make sure that your project engineer is doing it. Make sure your project manager is doing it, and the superintendents, even the interns. Make sure everybody is involved. Do we stop there? Heavens no, because there's a lot of eyes out in the field that can make these observations as well. Use your subcontractors. Let's see what they're observing out in the field. Use your architect and your engineers. They can all help to put data into the system that the computer can now learn from.
I just want to tell you that Autodesk is fantastic at this BIM 360 IQ, a new program they're developing. They're the wizards. They're the smart people, the data scientists. But what they don't have is the guys with the experience that maybe some of us had. They haven't had the boots on the ground. They haven't gotten their hands dirty. But they know how to work and create these programs that will write algorithms to sort all this data together to help us.
I want to give you just a couple quick examples in some of our work sites. We were down in a very warm climate, and we noticed that-- we looked at BIM 360 IQ, and there was an issue, a potential water-intrusion risk. It was getting close to the rainy season.
We looked up on the third floor of this building, and sure enough, the windows weren't in. But behind those window openings, we saw finishes. We saw ceilings and grids and lights, paint, all the finishes done. And we're thinking, oh my gosh, this is neat that this program could see that. But I certainly hope the team realized they might have a problem here. Well, of course, they did. But it helped to see it in a minute.
Here's another one where we were working on a 40-story structure high-rise in the islands of Hawaii. And we noticed through this IQ that a lot of our subcontractors having all sorts of fall protection issues. And we recognized that early on so that we could focus our time with those subs and help them learn what they needed to do to not have a fatality or to not have a major issue.
You're not alone, guys. You're never alone. Sometimes we feel that way, but utilize your best resources, your people. And I'm talking all the people that touched the project. It's a huge effort. Utilize their abilities.
One thing that IQ can help you do is recognize the things that you need to change as an organization, to be able to spend the time to close issues, to resolve issues at the earliest point, to take care of the problems when they arise and not react to them after it happens. Time's clicking. Wake up, people. It's time for y'all to get on board. Take the jump. Make the dive. Make the investment. You can do it. Appreciate your time.
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JIM LYNCH: All right, thank you, Richard. Richard talked a little bit about BIM 360 IQ. That is a really important initiative for the development organization, for the product team. As we look at the amount of information and data that our customers, that all of you are creating and collecting for each of your projects, we want to make sure that we're helping you tap into that information to drive greater outcomes on future projects.
So if you haven't learned about BIM 360 IQ, stop up at the Co:Construct booth upstairs on the fourth floor and talk to our team about it. It's really compelling. And we think it's a really important initiative that can really change the outcome of future projects for all of you.
OK, so our next presenter has really helped transform his company from being a fabrication and installation shop to really being a design, engineering, and manufacturing organization. Nick Bagatelos is the president of Bagatelos Architectural Glass Systems. And he's applied proven manufacturing techniques, really, to the design process. He joins us today to talk about lean processes and how he's helped evolve his firm to being, really, one of the leading subcontractors in California. So please welcome Nick Bagatelos.
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Nick, thank you.
NICK BAGATELOS: Thank you, Jim. Happy to be here in front of all of you. So this is a project my company completed in the Bay Area last year. And actually, it's a condominium, and it sold for the highest dollar per square foot of any condo in the US. And I would like to think it's because of the skin that we designed, engineered, and manufactured.
My name is Nick Bagatelos, and my company is Bagatelos Architectural Glass. It's a family-owned business. My brother and I started the business in 1987. Our mission is to be the premier glazier in the state of California. And our business philosophy is constant and continuous improvement.
We started, 30 years ago, doing small storefront projects, retail centers. And our company, in the first decade, did about $150,000 the first year and moved to about a $3 million operation over that decade. The next decade, we grew to do larger projects, two-story campus type facilities. We actually expanded into the Bay Area with the tech boom of the late '90s, early 2000s. And we went from a $3 million to a $10 million operation doing projects similar to this.
What we decided is that we wanted to be a larger company and do projects like this. This is a project that we just completed in Sacramento. It's the Sacramento Kings arena. And so this is why. The company wanted to do larger projects, but we needed to change in order to do that. So we shifted our philosophy from our main competency of being a fabrication and installation firm to be a company that designs, engineers, and manufactures [INAUDIBLE].
In the early 2000s, we had the opportunity to design multiple OSHPD projects. I don't know if you know about OSHPD, but it's the organization within the state of California that is there to make construction uncomfortably difficult. So everything you do within that organization, if you do it four times-- you're supposed to do it once in construction, and maybe you have to do it four. With OSHPD, you have to do it 10 times.
So my father was in the business before my brother and I, told us, don't ever work with OSHPD. But the opportunity came up for us to do this work and do design build. So we took that on. So we used that to develop a few things. We started using 3D and Revit, and we realized that we needed those tools to communicate with the architects and the contractor community.
So in 2004, we were asked to propose on this large hospital in Sacramento. It was an $18 million skin. And at the time, our company had never done a project more than maybe $3 or $4 million in scope, and our gross sales were about $8 to $10 million. So when we proposed, the glaziers that bid on the project were from 4 to 10 times larger than my firm.
And they told us in the proposal-- I read the proposal documents. They said, we want you to do this in 3D and use Revit, and we want you to use the Toyota Way and lean. So I read The Toyota Way three days before. I asked my head of engineering, can you use Revit? And he said, let me go home and take a look. He opened it up. He's like, yeah, I can use it. And he said, but I don't-- I said, I don't want to hear another word. You can use it? He said yes.
So I went into the meeting, right? I went into the meeting, and I proposed, went through the whole presentation about how we're going to build it and some pricing and everything. And I said, we are going to Kaizen this project. And we're going to use 5S. And they're like, so you know lean? I said, nope, know nothing about it. I read the book this week, and I'm committed to doing it.
And I said, we're going to use Revit for the project. They're like, you have Revit [INAUDIBLE]? You know Revit? I said, nope, but we can do it, and we'll commit to it. My competitors all said, no, we're great at what we do. We're going to build the way we build. We will not innovate the way you want us to innovate on this project. And to my surprise, honestly, and my brother, who's very conservative, more the money side of our business, they came to us and said, we want you to do the project. My brother got scared. I got excited.
When I step back and look at it now, I don't think we realized at that point, but we made a commitment to innovate. And that commitment gave me the opportunity-- you guys know how conservative our industry is. That gave me the opportunity to do a project four times larger than anything I'd ever done, twice my gross sales. And it allowed me to build this engineering group that could design, engineer, and manufacture projects like this through the resources of a general who wanted innovation.
So we were a fabrication-installation business. And we needed to become a design, engineering, and manufacturing firm. And so the positive benefits that happened through this for our company is we learned to use the Toyota Way manufacturing method and to formulate a lean path.
We used Revit as a 3D communication tool, which helped my company dramatically improve our processes and to understand the power of Revit as a tool for continuous improvement. And I don't think many people talk about that. People think of Revit as a design tool, but we use that tool to continuously improve our organization.
We rapidly realized that a large percentage of every construction project is waste. And I didn't know before we implemented these lean procedures. We started to see where our waste was. And the biggest piece of waste was here, in communication. So if you look at this slide, when I sell the curtain wall, it's plus or minus $100 a square foot.
You get through all these costs, and at the end of the day, if things go really well, I'm going to make 10% gross, and the feds are going to take half of it. I can walk with 4% or 5%. Waste is $20 of every project. No matter how successful it is, we burn through 20% of our jobs. And we're blind to where it's happening. Leading our projects has helped us understand where that's coming from.
So we see that that waste is-- it's indicative in, I think, most subcontractors. It's a part of every project. And the lack of communication between the designers, the details, the architects, the GC, the consultants, even within my own organization, the communication between my engineering staff in the field is almost nonexistent. Between the field and my production engineering, it's constant.
We have 150 people spread across our state. And to get those lessons learned embedded in the culture is extremely difficult, even if you have an organization who's based on trying to do that. And that's what I focus on in my organization, is to have continuous improvement. And it's still extremely difficult. So that lack of communication creates delays, missed opportunities, and always increased cost.
So we wanted to become more of a manufacturer than an installer. So we use the Toyota Way and lean management tools to create clear procedures and concise reporting for each of our business units, our engineering, our manufacturing, and our installation. We developed tack times down to the minute for every process that we had. We built procedures.
We value streamed our whole company. And we segmented every sector of the business. And we realized that we could apply lessons learned from each one of those into our Revit model libraries. So when I build a unitized curtain wall, I'll build a 6-foot-by-15-foot unit, and we'll ship it to the site. And we'll build hundreds or thousands of those for a project.
And I'll complete a project, and my PM and my lead men in the field and my superintendent will learn a lot of things. The hard part is getting that learning from those one or two key individuals spread across the group. And being able to embed those lessons learned, not just in some procedures that are in a drawer or on a computer, into our Revit drawings captures those forever.
The next thing that we did-- and let me tell you, that lean process, it wasn't-- I started down that path 12 years ago. It took us five or six years to create that lean process within the organization. The next step that we did-- I wanted to just use Revit as a tool for manufacturing as well. My guys beat their head against the wall for a while, and it wouldn't work. So we bought the Inventor tool. And we started using that for manufacturing. And that wasn't an overnight thing. It took us a year or two create those models.
And then the next step-- so I've got an organization now that does all of our drafting in Revit and embeds all those libraries and all those lessons learned. I have a similar library in Inventor. And now we've created the connection between the two. So there is usually such a communication loss, and we're able to actually reduce that dramatically.
What I did about a year and a half ago is we moved our estimating department to a fully Revit-based estimate. And I'm generating about 20 times as much data-rich estimates. So when I'm in the early stages of a giant project, and someone says, we're going to add a horizontal at every floor, before, I was just like, I've been doing it for 30 years. That's $2 a square foot across the overall project. Now I can go down to the piece of vinyl and piece of aluminum change, which can give us rapid, rapid feedback for an architect and an owner to know whether they want to make the [? change. ?]
So we use these tools to gather the continuous improvements. And every change that we have is embedded, like I said, in those Revit libraries. We capture best practices forever, we improve our processes, and we remove the repetitive tasks.
An example of repetitive task, numbering a project with 1,800 units was taking my drafters-- it was, like, a 9- to 12-hour task. And then we were repeating it in our project management and repeating it in our production engineering. The way we do it in Revit now eliminated that. So we're talking, like, 200 hours a year eliminated forever in the cost of doing business because of these libraries that we've created. And with that, we're steadily whittling away at that 20% [? bogie. ?]
So the way my company has changed has helped us within our supply chain. Better communication, it translates to better budget proposals, the ability to hold a design budget throughout a contract. Rapid design with tested details means reduction of design time and manufacturing and installation schedules.
Also, liabilities, because if we've got a detail that worked, it's going to work the next time. If we don't use the same detail over and over, we have possibilities of liability with leaks. Better data tracking means more accurate pricing, which leads to better bottom line. Data-rich drawings allows to communicate with our material suppliers earlier and more accurately, which lowers pricing and reduces schedule restraints. More accurate takeoffs and tracking allow us to batch releases and use less materials.
And we've seen our time from early estimate to production decrease dramatically, which makes us more competitive. So what I see in the industry-- because there's been a slow adoption, from my point of view. I promised those people, whatever it was, 12 years ago, that we would use these products. And I went back to my teams, and I said, we're going to do it. And we have, from the beginning.
And I found that a lot of the construction community has not. The subs that are around me don't. I'm constantly doing Revit drafting and drawing of the adjacent subcontractors. And the contractors, my generals are doing it, but it's more to produce a 3D model so they can hand that over at the end of the project and that there's limited amount of use during the project.
So what I think is going to happen is the industry is going to continue to dabble in BIM and 3D. I think the subcontractors that use these data-rich tools will become more competitive. I think the ones that master the tools will find collaborating general contractors that recognize their abilities and their abilities to design, engineer, and manufacture projects dramatically faster with more accuracy than their competitors. And I think those of us that do it will [? win, ?] and the others will eventually fall by the wayside.
So where I see my company going is we will continuously improve these tools. We're going to collaborate with our key exterior envelope subcontract-- excuse me, subcontractors that are around us. And what I see is that, if I can team up with a precast guy and a stucco guy, and I know their details going in, and they know my details going in, we can produce a set of documents that may take an architect six months to design that's absolutely incorrect. And we're going to have to go through in three months of redesign it and then three months of arguing about the details.
If I can team up with two or three key skin subs, we're going to be able to do that much more rapidly and with details that have been tested between those hard places, the places where a building leaks, between the stucco and the curtain wall and the precast and the glazing. And I think as we do that, as a subcontractor, and find those other subs that will collaborate, we're going to have projects that are much easier, much faster, and more reliable.
And what I think that will do is it will allow me and my company to land the best jobs with the best contractors. And I think we're going to increase our profitability, reduce owner schedules, and dramatically reduce our team's liability on the major projects in the Western United States. And I hope all of you really take advantage of those tools. And thank you for your time.
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SARAH HODGES: Thank you, Nick. Little bit of a different and very interesting perspective, I think, and something for all of us to be considering. So I mentioned that there's over 1,600 people who are just like yourselves with us at AU this week. And one of the great things about AU is there's a great opportunity for you to network.
And in fact, our next two presenters actually met here at AU two years ago. And since then, their two companies, Bonava and Sweco, have been partnering together on an extremely prolific relationship. In fact, what they have been doing is working together to really change the way their consumers buy houses from them. And they've done this through a combination of BIM 360 and Forge. So if I can get my title slides up here, I'd like to welcome Michael and Patrik to the stage to tell you just how they've done that.
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PATRIK LINDVALL: So thank you, Sarah. Good morning, everybody. My name is Patrik Lindvall. I'm the group head of VDC for Bonava. Bonava is the leading residential developer in northern Europe, with operations in eight countries around the Baltic Sea. We're born out of NCC, which is one of the larger construction companies in Scandinavia, and been developing homes and neighborhoods since 1930s.
So our history, our experience, our 80 years of experience and our 1,600 employees only tell half of the story. We're also a very new company. We haven't even turned two years old yet. So we have a new brand, new company, or you could say we are a $2 billion startup.
MICHAEL THYDELL: And I'm Michael Thydell. I work at Sweco as a BIM strategist and a business developer. Sweco is one of Europe's leading companies in consultancy, through ACFM to industry and environment. And this is me two years ago here at AU 2015.
I was giving a main stage speak at the innovation forum, after where a colleague to Patrik approached me and asked me if we, Sweco, were interested in supporting them in what he called a crazily industrialist transformation process. Sure, I said. That's what we do for breakfast at Sweco. Well, little did I know the size of the scope.
PATRIK LINDVALL: Yeah, and I think that was quite lucky because if we'd known then what we know today, I think it would be a bit different. But the Bonava journey is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. It's an opportunity to leave a lot of legacy behind and to put in place an advanced, modern enterprise architecture. It's an opportunity to shape the way that we want to work with BIM.
So with our blank sheet of paper and our core process, we set out on this. And our aim was to connect all the parts of our business in one unbroken chain of information, establishing that single source of truth that could follow through our processes. But of course, the first step in changing an industry, like we're trying to do, is to take ownership of the process.
So with that, we wanted to establish new ways of working that would tear down the traditional discipline-based silos with multiple handoffs and instead create a continuous flow of information that would enhance collaboration and put the customer in focus. But of course, this was something that we could not do ourselves. So we needed help.
MICHAEL THYDELL: Sure. And here we are, almost two years afterwards. Sweco has been supporting the Bonava team with over 80 consultants from five different countries, with expertise spanning from architecture to programming, change management, VR, solar, and energy analysis, et cetera, et cetera. Together, with Bonava's expertise, we have made a big leap. Actually, we have started to transform an old market into becoming a true industry.
Our first task was to do a little bit of investigation, creating a report of how Bonava were utilizing IT, CAD, and BIM. And then, we found out that, although they were locally very optimized and skilled, if we took a bigger perspective, they were pretty fragmented. They had different solutions on every business unit and every country. So we were to present a recommendation how they could follow through with a future, up-to-date, high-end technical solution.
So we came up with three options. First, keep on business as usual. You could just work as you are supposed to, as you are used to, and just try to cut the corners a little bit. Another option was to make an IFC-based workflow that would enhance the means of coordination and data collaboration. And thirdly, if it would like to have a completely integrated solution with every discipline and a lot of possibility through [? API, ?] well, there was only one solution out there that could provide us with that. And that was, of course, Revit. And that was also our recommendation.
PATRIK LINDVALL: Yeah. So at the same time, secretly, I was working on the same task, though I might have had a bit more information than you did at the time. But the thinking here was that, if we had two independent studies that came to the same conclusion, it would strengthen our case. And luckily, yeah, we did reach the same conclusion, that the cloud and Revit-based BIM would be the future VDC platform that we're going to use in Bonava.
So with a greenfield environment, as the story might have, and this insight of how the new process would look, we were very quickly able to reduce the number of CAD applications from 20 down to one cloud-based system, which in itself is a standardization. But for us, the ability to have our eight business units in eight countries start the harmonization journey was more important.
So looking at these slides and an audience full of contractors, it's quite easy to equate industrialization with what happens during the build phase or on the construction site. But for us, it's equally important to have a robust industrial process in the digital world so we can drive the investment, the development, sales marketing, and the customer services in the same way that we would on a site.
So our parts that we have as a module enables us, together with the rule sets to be combined in various modules that, in turn, can be combined into multiple solutions. So that gives us the industrial process and the approach while still keeping some of the architectural freedom. So you can look at these parts in the modules that we have as the power tools our architects and engineers use. And at the same time, it's the environment in which our business developers can explore an entire neighborhood even before they get the funding to invest in the land.
So this, of course, would put a lot of new requirements on the architects and the engineers and the subcontractors that we use. So to be successful, we have to change the way that people think. So in our case, we have about 1,600 people that we needed to change the mindset, to create a new viewset to approach this. And we do that in four mental hooks that we try to get into people's heads.
Around content creation, where we view everything as a predefined part, and the process of design in one of the projects is to reuse as much as possible of those parts. Collaboration, where we openly share the information so that it's always accessible for someone that takes part of it to avoid making mistakes.
Coordination is probably the most important, because in the digital world, everything has to be correct. You cannot leave things that are wrong in the digital world because it's immediately discovered. And our digital twin that enables us to drive a concurrent and connected workflow where the twin itself can drive a cost estimate, a visualization, and at the same time, produce the documentation.
MICHAEL THYDELL: And here is the technical solution that we created together. It's the power of two clouds coming together, Microsoft SharePoint Online and Azure for everything that's about documentation, and then the powerful BIM 360 cloud environment for everything CAD and BIM related.
We utilize Revit, collaboration for Revit, and of course, Forge, not only BIM 360 Glue and Field, et cetera, but Forge. And that really helps us to create any number of integrated cloud data sets and functionality. This also gives us this unbroken workflow that is indefinitely expandable, enabling us to come up with any kind of services and data that is going to support this.
PATRIK LINDVALL: So what is it that we can do, then, right now on this new platform that we have? Well, with our parts and the templates and our fully Revit-enabled building system, we can start to replace the 800 pages of documentation that we previously had. Of course, we still need to produce drawings, but our process of design in all our projects has a much higher degree of reuse.
So in the last 12 months, when we looked back and did some measurements, we can see that we have a much higher level of detail in our models, with a higher quality, and at the same time, we reduce the cost for design. So we have some samples here. We're able, from the same model, to drive our visualization process, a process that is today 50% more effective than it was when we went on to this journey. And at the same time, it also generates an interactive experience that we can share with the customer. So in a sense, we get more with less.
MICHAEL THYDELL: Just to make some examples, this is the current way of exposing new apartments on Bonava's web page. It's a 2D image, with some areas where you can click and mouse over. You can get some information. We are now migrating this into this, with exactly the same graphical appearance, although this time it's the 3D, interactive, Forge-based model, creating everything that we need.
And the next step is to have similar technology with the Forge platform as the basis for customization. To buy an apartment from Bonava will be very similar to the experience you have when you buy a new car. You [? shame ?] something, and you get a price tag of that. And this technology enables us to enhance productivity and the entire operations.
So what's next? Well, this is an example of what's next, how we are going to utilize Forge. We can integrate a lot more functionality to this platform. This example is from our head office at Stockholm, where we streamline a lot of data from a wide range of sensors, and we overlay them into the Forge environment with a good interface. This kind of technology could provide the Bonava customers with new services and enhancing their living experience, actually.
So this connected workflow that we are achieving right now will have a great impact on all the countries where Bonava is operating. And we, architects and engineers, we will find ourself under much stricter directing. They will have new kind of demands of how we model and what kind of data sets we are creating. It will be pretty hard to meet the demands for subcontractors and produce those architectures and consultants that Bonava is putting forward.
But I also think that we will see some kind of certification just to be able to work with them. Personally, I think this is good. This makes Bonava one of those harbingers of things to come that actually are transforming this market into becoming a true industry. And this means that we will see higher quality, better profit, lower costs, and in the end, better products for the customers.
PATRIK LINDVALL: Yeah, so with this engagement with Sweco, we also wanted to create something more. We wanted to create a flexibility for the future, a flexibility where we could add services to a neighborhood and actually explore those in the digital world before we make a decision, the flexibility to add new technologies, like Internet of Things, to enhance the homes and neighborhoods but also to enhance our processes.
And we do this so our customers can live their lives with the highest quality. And we firmly believe that the platform that we created together with Sweco is the key to the future. And we're here today in one of the largest and most influential BIM events in the world with an exhibition hall full of new technology, sessions, Keynotes, announcements, and classes.
And I also think that events like this that we have today, where we bring in a lot of different professionals from all over the world, release a lot of creativity, creating synergies, is a good example of a new and powerful way to interact. And I would like to encourage each one of you to reach out, connect a network not only with your peers but actually across the entire AEC space. Thank you, and enjoy the rest of AU.
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SARAH HODGES: All right, thank you, Michael and Patrik. That was indeed inspiring. And I think what's fascinating for me, at least, to see is how everything connects together through BIM 360, through Forge, integration of things like data and sensors to realize their vision. So we're going to transition a little bit now.
So those of you that were here at AU last year, you heard me talk a great deal, actually, on the main stage about how we're taking things digital. We're digitizing what's happening on the construction site. And so what we wanted to do was give one company an opportunity to digitize part of their workflow with an exciting construction tech pack. So I'd like to now invite a former colleague and friend of mine who's now the general manager at Leica, Matt Wheelis, to the stage. And he and I are going to be announcing the winner of our competition. So let me invite Matt up.
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Thank you. [INAUDIBLE]. So last month, in collaboration with both Leica as well as our media partner contact, [? TRIO, ?] we had a competition where we had, actually, 4,000 people participate. And as part of that competition, we asked one very simple question. Why do you want to come to Autodesk University? We had many great responses, but I'm now going to reveal the winning quote. And then I'll show you who it came from. So I'll give you a second to read it. All right, and the winner is Alex from Okland Construction.
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Congratulations.
ALEX SCHREYER: Thank you.
MATT WHEELIS: Yeah, congratulations, Alex. Very good. So on behalf of Leica Geosystems, I was going to talk for just a moment. We have a 200-year history as Leica Geosystems, or almost 200-year history of developing an engineering grade of spatial-measurement technologies and lately just really leading the way, I think, in a number of the areas, including the first commercially available backpack, indoor-outdoor mapping system.
And then, last year, we entered into an announcement with Autodesk. Here, at Autodesk University one year ago, we announced that we were going to produce a 1-kilogram or 2.2-pound laser scanner that would integrate directly with Autodesk ReCap and really seek to democratize those workflows around reality capture. So today, I'm pleased to award this to you, Alex, your very own BLK360 from Leica, an iPad Pro provided by Autodesk, and then also the mission kit from Leica with everything you need to get out there in the field.
SARAH HODGES: Nice.
ALEX SCHREYER: Thank you.
MATT WHEELIS: Very good. Thank you.
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SARAH HODGES: Well done. Congratulations, Alex, and thanks, Matt. I'm now wondering if we should have also given him a new suitcase to carry all of his things home with. Anyway, I'd now like to invite Jim back up to the stage with me. And we've got a few additional housekeeping, logistical next steps for you before we send you on your way to the next part of our day.
JIM LYNCH: All right, I didn't get to enter that contest.
SARAH HODGES: Next year.
JIM LYNCH: All right, so a public service announcement before we wrap up this morning's events. So just want to invite all of you to the AEC Customer Excellence Celebration tomorrow morning from 8:00 to 10:00 in Palazzo Ballroom [? B & ?] [? G. ?]
SARAH HODGES: There are mimosas.
JIM LYNCH: There are what?
SARAH HODGES: There are mimosas.
JIM LYNCH: Oh, I didn't know that. OK. So join your peers at this event. It's pretty cool. You'll get to see some, actually, really cool projects that have been submitted to try to win this Customer Excellence Award. So if you have time tomorrow morning, highly recommend you go and check it out, some really, really cool stuff there.
OK, so just a few things before we send you off to your classes. So remember, classes are up on the fourth floor. If you haven't registered for classes, that's fine. Just take a look at the program, see the classes that are interesting to you. And help yourself, and go ahead, and sit in on those classes.
I also want to remind you of the Co:Construct Zone up on the fourth floor, really a great opportunity to meet the BIM 360 product team, learn about what we're working on, learn about where we're going, ask your questions, and most importantly, give us your feedback. We really want to hear from you. And I hope you all have a great day. And then, of course, we hope to see all of you tonight at Tao. And we'll see you later this evening. Thank you.
SARAH HODGES: Thank you.
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