Reaping the Benefits of the Cloud

MARIUS ALNES: We in this class, we are going to talk about Collaboration for Revit and the BIM 360 Team. If you are here in this room, and you don't know what I'm talking about now, you're probably in the wrong session. And if you want to leave during the session, that's OK. But keep in mind just to walk out quietly so you don't disturb the other attendees. So anybody here for the first time? Are they-- you? Yeah? Cool. That's good. That's good. Have a lot to look forward to. Here is the best place to be to learn and to connect.

Yes. And just to see which kind of people we have in the room, is there many architects here? Yeah? Nice. Engineers? Anybody? OK. Cool. So we just keep on going. And if somebody have some questions during the session, I would recommend asking them at the end of the session. We keep Q&A for that. So I think we'll just start. This is the class summary. It will demonstrate what Collaboration for Revit is, and a little bit about the integration with BIM 360 teams.

We're going to go through some tips and workflows using Collaboration for Revit and how to communicate and collaborate using the cloud. These are the learning objectives-- you've seen that before. And we just get started. OK, my name is Marius Alnes. I'm from Norway. I'm a civil engineer and specialist at Norconsult. Been working with Revit and other Autodesk products for over 10 years. Some people at my office called me a Revit geek, BIM geek. But I'm also proud of it, so they can just keep on going.

If you want to connect with me, I'm at LinkedIn, and also Twitter. So I'll be happy-- if you send me a request, I'll be happy to accept it. Just a little bit short about the company I'm working in. Norconsult, we're over 3,000 employees. We have about 20,000 projects during a year, and we have sales for 4.2 billion Norwegian kroner-- that's about $0.5 billions American. And we have 52 countries with projects. We've got nine offices in five continents. Here is the market.

We have architecture-- buildings, energy, oil and gas, IT-- we cover, pretty much. And the projects we are going to look a little bit into today is expansion of an existing shopping center with 36,000 square meters. The projects are running actually now. It started up in December 2016, and it is estimated to be finished in November 2018. After the expansion here, it will be Norway's biggest shopping center, with a total of 130 square meters after the expansion.

That's quite big in Norway, but I guess here in Vegas, that's quite small. I don't know. Here, just a picture of the building site. This is taken for-- about two months ago. You'll see here is actually the building site. It goes-- going to go here. And this is a shopping center. And also this, and this one. So we're going to build a bridge over here to connect them. So all these three shopping center will be connected. This is a little bit newer picture. This is taken for two weeks ago.

So, an overview. Collaboration for Revit. Have anybody heard about Collaboration for Revit? OK. Good. Is there anybody using Collaboration for Revit? Oh, that's good. Good. For the ones who don't know much about it, you centralize the Revit files in the cloud for each discipline, and then you are normally working, and you're working at your office, and at your computer. And they also have-- you have local files there, so it will be synchronized to the central files.

You also take the Revit links in the cloud, and you link them in your projects from other disciplines. So this is how it works. If anybody have heard about Revit server, this is much better than that-- it's much faster. So I like it a lot. We're going to talk more about this-- we're going to go through it. BIM 360 Team-- this is the BIM 360 family. Is there anybody here who are a little bit confused about the 360 family? Any hands? OK. Well. It's good that it's not only me.

The BIM 360 Team family started out at A 360, then it changed name. And then all these products were developed. So the BIM 360 Team, which we are going to talk about-- you see it's in the conceptual design phase. It's in the early phase of the project. And actually, in this project, we take this a little bit further to this area here. OK. Project startup. How do I get Collaboration for Revit and BIM 360 team? Just to get a little bit overview of that-- this is nothing.

It's only the contract managers and software coordinates who do this. They do it once, and they need to purchase it, and they need to create a project on a team hub, which is in the cloud. And after they've done that, then you are ready to go. How you start a cloud-based project? It's really easy. You start up your Revit file or Revit project from a template as you normally do. And then you go to the Collaborate tab in Revit. I actually think you have to save the file first.

And then you hit the Collaboration using the cloud. And if the contract manager have done their job, you will have access to a folder in the cloud there. And then you choose that-- you choose a name for the file, and then you are ready to go. When you start up a project, what are the most important thing to be aware of? Anybody have any suggestion about that? Sorry.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah. That was exactly what I was looking for. I like to call it Operation Zero-Point. This is-- I can't say it enough. This is something I always start the project with. Usually, it's the architects which start up a project. And then, as a structural engineer, we come later on. I've been sometimes I've asked architects-- let's have a meeting and let's discuss this. And I ask them-- no offense to architects, but there are many good architects there also on the technical stuff here. But there have been some times I've asked for the zero point, the origin, and sometimes they don't know, and that's OK. We'll figure it out.

And sometimes they are telling me that it's in that location. And I go back to my office. I'll take the architect model. I bring it in Revit, and guess what happens? Well, it wasn't that place where the architect told me to. But you can avoid this-- just be aware of that. I usually make like AutoCAD simple symbol here, 2D symbol, which I bring in. I linked it in Revit Origin to Origin, and boom, it gets on the 0, 0, 0. So this is the hidden coordinate system of Revit.

And I would recommend running all projects with that. This is just to make it simple-- you could use project base point, you can use survey point. But why make it complex when you can make it this easy? We usually also used to have a 3D geometry, and this is actually the disciplines. And it's located here in the zero point. This gives you a pretty good control of the linked files when you're working on the file. And you see if it's moved or not. OK, Worksets. This is also a tip.

Anybody here using Worksets and bring in linked files to that? Excellent. I would recommend everybody doing that-- use Worksets, make Worksets of every linked files, and then put the linked file in the Worksets. It gives you more control, and as you see here, if you want to bring in a linked file, you have the ability to turn off some Worksets in that linked file. This means that if you are making Worksets of every linked files, other disciplines will have this option to turn it off.

It will speed up performance, and you also have the ability to visualize the disciplines on a very easy way. Yeah. And how you import it? It's actually here. You get a new symbol here when you are using Collaboration for Revit, and you've got to BIM 360 symbol here, and you just put it-- go to the project and you link in the other files. In this particular project, we were discussing with the architects how we should do this project. How many here are-- when you're modeling, you're modeling on top of something-- the same objects that you are modeling?

Anybody here? When you're drawing, then if you have a linked file from the architect, and you're a structural engineer, the architect usually have the structural walls, the columns and everything. And when you start drawing, you usually draw on top of that, right? Yeah. So this is a good way by doing it. But when the structural engineer are done modeling up the objects in one area, then it could be a good idea-- and we did it in this project. We was having meeting with architects, and we decided, let's take away the structural object from the architect model, and then only use structural objects from the structural engineer model.

This gives you way better control of everything. You know when the architect makes details of everything, he knows that the structural engineer has these objects. And he knows that, when he's drawing details around these structural objects, they are placed on the right place. And of course, you have-- OK, what about doors, windows in concrete walls? Yeah. You will have problems putting doors and windows in the structural engineer wall in the linked file from architectural view.

But what we did here was just to make some other walls, and they put the doors in there. So the structural opening is the structural engineers' opening. And we also had analytical lines. We have pre-concrete, and we actually have one specific firm which doing the pre-concrete. And as a structural engineer, we needed to have the analytical lines. So we just put the pre-concrete objects to our Workset, which we hide the default in each view. OK. I will show you a little bit.

Yes. There we are. This is the project here. What I was talking about is the project zero point. I only have some disciplines on now. And as you see, we placed it-- the architects thought it was some kind some here, but it actually was in this area. And we made symbols there, so it's really, really easy to see if something moves. And I made some-- it's here. This is the structural engineer model. And when I turn it like this, you will notice that is there ain't no structural deck here, and there ain't no columns in this specific area.

That's because the precast concrete engineer has taken over those elements, and we are working through the whole model. And if I go here, you see it's the precast concrete. And you see that this area, they have modeled up each element of it. And so they're done, mostly, in that area. So now we are going to another area of the building. And for the architect, you'll see here also that he doesn't have the first two stories here. And none-- no columns and no beams.

So we are basically just building a model which each discipline have their own object. So one of the objects at one instance, one place. So far, so good? Good. So. Drawing Live in Revit. When you're using Collaboration for Revit, everything is up to date. So when you synchronize your file, then the changes of that file will go to the central file in the cloud, and then it will update to the other disciplines-- their model-- and this is a really good thing.

But you have to keep in mind that you have to communicate when doing in this way. Either way, it can be a little bit-- it can be some complicated issues of that. But just be sure you make some rules set for how changes should be communicated. And Autodesk actually have thought about it, and they made the Communicator. So this keeps tracks of the changes in the model you see here. Here, you will see when each discipline have synchronized their file to the central.

So you will see when it's updated. You also have a chat function here, and you can chat in the project, or with the persons. And you also have an overview of each person in the project. Well, when you're drawing live, then in this project, the architect wanted to be able to draw something. And just to see as an option of something. So just to visualize this-- so we, as a structural engineer, doesn't go and changes everything after their temporary solution for something-- we made our color filter.

This was basically made that the architect just pushed their temporary objects to a Workset. We made a Workset, just named same as in the architect model. And then we applied a color filter to it, and then it's highlighted as red. You can do this also by making parameters, et cetera, but this is the way we did it. OK. We go back to Revit.

This is the building again. Now I turn off everything except the temporary objects from the architects. And you'll see, in the top floors here, you have some walls which are highlighted as red. Just to see how we did this-- if you go in Revit Links, and you go at the Workset here, first you choose a custom here, then you go to Workset. And then they have a Workset here which shows temporary-- it's in Norwegian, so I guess some of you won't understand it. But we set it up like that.

You could also have the other architectural objects-- it doesn't matter. And then we applied a filter on it. This is really easy to use. I'm not going to show too much about it, but it's really useful doing this kind. So you will also see in the plan view that it's marked, highlighted as red. And you can also ask the architect to add some object, some more information to the object. So you will see it when you click on it and go to Properties. So far, so good? Good. OK.

Publish views and sheets to the cloud. So we're setting up views before publishing. And maybe not everybody here knows what publishing is, but it means that you push views. It can be 3D views, 2D views, sheets. You publish it, you send it up in the cloud where you have your central files stored. This is very useful thing, because then when you do this, the contractors can also follow this-- building owners. You give them the ability to keep track of the changes in the model, see how it develops, see the design, and everything.

So this is a really good feature with the Collaboration for Revit. So the thing is, before you do that, probably some of you have done some export to DVF and et cetera. It's almost the same thing. You set up some views, some sheets, and you just publish them. And instead of exporting them down and then put it in the cloud or anyplace else, then this is automatic function. And the good thing about it is that here, you just made this is a rebar solution for some area.

So this gives the ability to take some 3D details, and you include it in your set, and you just publish it, and they also are able to see it on the building site. Just be aware when you are publishing these settings-- this gave me a pretty headache, because when I was exporting 2D views, they just showed up as gray and black. So the thing is that you actually need to go to the DVF export to set those settings. And don't ask me, but I think that should be possible to do in the settings in the Collaborate tab.

But yeah, keep that in mind. Still setting up some views. Here, you see the first up on top here. This is a structural model where we have technical installations, and this is how it looks if you don't do color filters or anything to the technical installations. What we did there was used "By linked view." I will show you, demonstrate how it works. It's just really good, and it saves a lot of time. This is how it looks. You make a set of each drawing, each view you want to publish.

And when setting it up like that, you are ready to go and publish it. And the best part of it is, when you publish, when you hit the Publish button here, after you made these changes here, then it will close and be running in the background. So then you can continue work right away. I'll show you a little bit about that. This is the piping engineer where we have pipes and ducts. And as you see, when I just bring in his model in my project, this shows up like this.

If I simply can take a phone call to this piping engineer and ask him kindly to set up a view for me, with the colors of the different colors of the pipes and everything, then I could use his view to visualize it in my model. So what we do then is we go in the Revit file, in the linked file. Then you see here, we have by host view, by linked view, and custom. I click on by linked view, and I kindly ask him to make a view, which is called BIM 360 3D. I click OK.

I click OK, and look what happens. Boom. OK. Anybody using this? This is real good. And these colors will also be published to the cloud. So just set up the views-- we have done it here. We have some views here, 3D views and 2D plans. Just to get it up in the cloud, publish it maybe once a day, twice a day. It doesn't matter. It doesn't take a long time. You use the same amount of time as you are synchronized to the central file.

And just to-- we have the published settings here where you can see the published views. And here you can do changes, you can go using the model. Then you get all the views. A lot of views here. And you can choose whatever view you want. Just remember-- after you done those changes here, push Save and Close, and then synchronize. If you don't synchronize after you've done changes there, they will use the old one, and publish that. And to publish, then you just go here.

You have a project here. And you've got a nice little button here, which called publish later. You click on that, you can instantly close the window and continue to work. Everybody with me so far? That's good. Anybody needs two minutes to stretch or just talk to your neighbor, and we take two minutes, and then we keep on going on BIM 360 teams. Yep.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] with [INAUDIBLE] at the link view?

MARIUS ALNES: How he does it?

AUDIENCE: Yeah. [INAUDIBLE] if I am an architect where I search-- I want to have a link view [INAUDIBLE] imaging, or the mechanical.

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: The pipe engineer initial set has a 3D view for him. If I have a different template for that save, or that work in progress view, or production view. So which link will the architect [INAUDIBLE] take if I-- am using [INAUDIBLE] view?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah, you can just ask him to make any--

AUDIENCE: --create a 3D model for--

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah. Just ask him to do make-- the same. Just ask him to make a 3D view which looks good, and then you will have it in the list there.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] If he links the linking view, he will select the 3D views that has been [INAUDIBLE]

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MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: Oh, OK. It doesn't choose any randomly, 3D view?

MARIUS ALNES: No, no.

AUDIENCE: I can pick--

MARIUS ALNES: You can pick whatever you want.

AUDIENCE: Oh, OK.

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

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MARIUS ALNES: OK, guys. Then we just continue. Everybody. So. Then we start up again-- two minutes have passed. Everybody feeling fresh again? 30 minutes left. OK, let's go. BIM 360 teams. Anybody heard of BIM 360 team, I guess? Almost everybody. Yeah. Anybody using it? Yeah, some hands. Good. The BIM 360 Team are a cloud service which you can be-- which team members can use to communicate in the cloud. So they don't need Revit and other expensive products.

The BIM 360 team are pretty cheap, and it gives the ability to communicate and discuss options and everything. So the Dashboard in BIM 360 Team looks like this. It's a file structure. You have your Revit models here. And one thing you should be aware of is that those files-- if you click on one of those files here-- The Forge viewer. This has the built in-- BIM 360 Team uses the Forge viewer. And then it will launch the latest published views. So it won't-- you won't see the changes in the Revit model when it's been synchronized.

It need to be published. So this is the publish feature. When you're working in Revit, everything gets updated. But then you are working in Revit. So just keep that in mind. You can add folders, you can add files here. The viewer will read almost every file format. It's just crazy. And you can also have a built in calendar, discussions, and Wiki pages. You can set it up just the way you want. Here is the viewer of BIM 360 Team. I have to say it is a very nice viewer. It gives good graphics, and it made very easy.

It have a toolbar here, and you can use that-- you have some basic tools here which you can crop. And you can have a walk through, you can orbit, you can pan. And this is a nice feature-- the first person tool. This is the tools you're using with BIM 360 Teams. This is the section, and you have a print a property. I'll just show it to you. Here is the building. You can see it's-- this contains not every discipline, but it contains the architect's-- every object in the architect model. Structural engineer-- it's really easy to use.

You can, if you want, have a section-- it's really easy to do that. You can also flip this section by using this. So if anybody is interested in taking these cuts, then you have the ability to do that. And the first person tool-- it's really cool. If anybody are used to computer games-- you just get straight away into this. So you can go explore the model. It's really nice, using this.

AUDIENCE: Excuse me.

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: Is it a Revit model, or another extension linked to it?

MARIUS ALNES: No, it's not the Revit model. This makes--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: It publish it, so it generates something. So it generates-- I think it's a DVF file or something, and then it push it to the cloud.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] can speed or can rotate [INAUDIBLE].

MARIUS ALNES: It's very fast, and you can go through-- so it's way faster than Revit can handle. OK. Everything OK? OK. In Collaboration, using the BIM 360 Team, you have some tools for there, which we saw in the Forge viewer. We have the markup and the common tool, and I'll show you a little bit of that. I'm not going to talk too much about this here, so I'll just show it to you, so we get straight away to the live demo.

So when I'm here, walking around, and I find something, and I would like to notify some persons of that, you can use a markup tool. And you can put some arrows to that. OK, we have-- let's put in like that. And you can use some text. And then when you push shave, it should generate something here. Yeah. You see here-- so in the BIM 360 Team, you have this comment tool. So you go in through the model, you add markups, you can add comments to objects, to points, wherever.

And then it will be stored in this comment list. And the great thing about this is, if you-- let's see if I can do this. When I go out here-- still see the bubble? And I should be able to click on that straight away back. So this is a really great tool-- going through the model. It's just really nice working around the model here. OK. And the comment here, you will be able to use it as a comment at the point, where object-- and it's the markup tool, as we showed.

Everything will show up here. If you have something else, you can just click on a comment here, start writing. You will instantly make a screenshot of where you are in the model. And it will be stored in this list. So this is a powerful tool-- we use it a lot in this designing phase, and it's really great. So how we're doing on time? 15 minutes. QR codes-- these are really fun. Anybody using QR codes? Yeah? Doing? Nice. I like just fooling a little bit around with QR codes.

It's really great. Here is a drawing I made for some structural facade. And I was modeling it in 3D, every bolts and everything. And I was thinking, I'll make these drawings with these measurements. And did a lot of time in that. And why not give the ability for the ones who are going to make this to see it in 3D? Well, then I just exported a crop down, as we've seen before-- a view, and I published it. And then, you will be able-- you get a web address for that location, for that file.

And then you can copy it, and then you can make a QR code. So everybody have their phones ready-- you have your AU app. Go to the scanner and see if you get something of this. And hopefully it will work. You should get some structural, blue, frames, columns. Anybody getting it?

AUDIENCE: Yeah.

MARIUS ALNES: Cool. So just apply it to the drawings, and you had your 3D model at the building site. They can use their iPads, their phones. It's great. And to generate it, you only need a web page or a web link. And for the BIM 360 Team, you are able to use password to it, so not everybody will-- can access it. OK. You can try it. I will keep it in the presentation. So yeah. Good. Another feature in BIM 360 Team is live review. I was thinking we should try it.

Hopefully we have time for it. I will set up really quick with a demo, and then you will see how we made QR codes. So if I go here and open the structural model-- you see how fast it is. It's just great. And I choose here live review. And hopefully, Autodesk have done their job and have an internet connection which allows us to do this. Don't kill me if it fails. We copy this address, and I'll show you-- Here.

I generate it. You can use whatever you want. So anybody getting this? OK, a little bit too much. Can you scan that, or should I make it a little better? Maybe some people over there?

AUDIENCE: Can you come back?

MARIUS ALNES: Yep. I go back. Getting it?

AUDIENCE: Zoom in [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: I'll try to zoom in. Let's see here. Where is this? There we have it. What about now? Getting it? Yeah. Everybody is-- as you can see, the model are spinning because-- we have some explode function and everything. So if everybody can control this, if I take control now, you should be able to see it spin in your mobile devices. And if everybody is doing this, this just going to go crazy. But you get the idea. So what you can do-- yeah, you can just fool around.

You can get these QR codes, or you can just copy the link, email it to the building site. If some people there-- some of the builders-- they want to discuss something to you in the office, then you have the ability to go through the model there. So this is a great feature. We are closing up. Compare versions. This is also a good tool in BIM 360 Team, and it gives you the ability to track changes on a really easy way. I will show quickly that, and maybe we get just some a little bit time for questions.

Let's see here. I'll just close the live review. And I go here-- open this one. And how you compare it-- you compare the published versions of it. So if I want to see changes, I choose compare. I choose the versions of it-- 27 against 26. And I click Compare. Then it should be as you see. They're highlighted-- red means removed, green means added, and yellow means modified. So if you click on a modified object right here-- it will zoom in.

And you can switch between the versions of it. So if I'm going to see-- should be able to move a little bit. You see there? Changes a little bit. So then you can see what is modified on the object. So a little bit final thoughts. OK, what about the future? Do we need 2D detailing, or can we do everything in 3D? Paperless projects-- I guess somebody have heard about it, but are we there yet? And maybe we are, on the building sites-- where you actually could put on some glasses and, like this guy-- I modified it a little bit.

So like this guy, he have his VR glasses on. He's climbing up and he's getting the rebar in his glasses, and he can check with everything is OK. So we have five minutes. Questions? Yes, sir.

AUDIENCE: You're inside BIM 360 Team, and you also have [INAUDIBLE] Collaboration [INAUDIBLE] Revit. [INAUDIBLE] something [INAUDIBLE] Revit [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: No, it's not. It's not there yet. So you have to have a web browser which you use BIM 360 Teams. And then-- so that works by itself, separately. And then you have the Collaboration for Revit. That is in your Revit program. So you can't go. Yeah?

AUDIENCE: Can you also send these to Docs?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] later on?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah. You can use-- because you saw the whole family there, so you have Docs, you have a bunch of BIM 360 products. And I've actually heard that they are going to merge it together. So-- sorry?

AUDIENCE: Consolidate?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] one license?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah, one license, yeah. So they're going to merge it together, and then you probably have more options. Yeah, sir?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] more question. [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: I mean, I'm glad you asked that, because that's something we wanted. And that function, you actually have in BIM 360 Docs, but you don't have it in BIM 360 Team. But when they are going to merge it, hopefully that function will be able. Yeah.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] BIM 360, can you do any collaborate-- [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: No, it doesn't. So then you have BIM 360 Glue. So you have another BIM 360 product. So you see how this is going. Hopefully they will merge it, and it will be all right. OK?

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] my question, [INAUDIBLE] Glue and [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: No. There ain't. So it's different products, but you can push it from Revit to Glue and do clash the [INAUDIBLE] there. OK, all the way back.

AUDIENCE: I have a question about how you can effectively block the architect [INAUDIBLE] internet work with BIM 360 Teams [INAUDIBLE] do some things.

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: Not [INAUDIBLE] necessary [INAUDIBLE] going to be [INAUDIBLE].

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: But [INAUDIBLE] all these changes on my own [INAUDIBLE] right [INAUDIBLE].

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah. This is what I was talking about in when you are Collaboration-- when everything happens live. Then you have some rules set in when the publishing stuff, when you push it up to the cloud, it's going to be the model as it is in the publishing time. So when you publish it, it is just the way as you-- when you hit the button, it takes the Revit model and push it up to the cloud. So I'm not sure if I answered your question, but--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: So you were speaking about Revit Server before. Is there a drastic difference in the sync time [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah, massive. Yeah. It's just crazy-- it's using Revit server because the Collaboration for Revit, when it loads the models, it only takes the changes. So you have a local copy in your computer. It will try to synchronize it or look for changes and it will only load in the changes. In Revit server, they will check to the whole model, and it takes much more time to bring it in. OK, we have one minute. Over there.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] in Revit. [INAUDIBLE] link in a DWG that's been [INAUDIBLE] BIM 360 [INAUDIBLE]?

MARIUS ALNES: I'm actually not sure about that, but I'll check it, and--

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] support DWG?

MARIUS ALNES: Sorry?

AUDIENCE: It doesn't support DWG--

MARIUS ALNES: It doesn't? OK.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] link DWGs in. Only thing you can link are [INAUDIBLE] projects [INAUDIBLE] based--

MARIUS ALNES: Yeah.

AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

MARIUS ALNES: OK.

AUDIENCE: There weren't DWGs [INAUDIBLE].

MARIUS ALNES: Cool. You got-- you're our expert there. OK, we have some-- if somebody have some more questions, I'll be here in this room. We have some new at AU this year. We have some office hours. I will be here and answer questions. So if you'd like, I'm happy to see you here. So drop by. And also, please give me some feedback of this session. You can do it with your mobile phone. Thank you so much from me, and have a nice AU. Thank you.